Hello folks, Like Brooks, i`ve been made aware of this forum by Kotori from over at RCgroups. it´s intriguing to say the least! Especially as it is exactly at the scale i built my scratchbuilt Square rigger 1:50 scale and its for standoff scale functional models, which is my type of building. The added appeal of battling it out with fellow sailing enthusiasts is amazing, just too bad that in the part of the world i life in i doubt there can be made enough interest to get our own group going... Here`s a few pics of my ship: The US Naval brig-of-war Somers 12 guns. Length 100ft, breadth 25ft, burthen 250tons The hull was constructed in a bread and butter carved construction from balsa. functions include: Fore mast braces with slaved headsail sheet, main mast braces, driver sheet and rudder. Sailing weight is 2000g of which 1000g are ballast in the fin keel The Sails can be reduced to driver, main trysail and fore staysl only (minimum schooner configuration, who it has shown that at least a reefed fore topsail is very much helping maneuvering in strong winds. you guys will have a LOT of fun with this after getting over the initial learning curve maneuvering a square rigger (which takes a bit of practice to get used to) (note shot was only thrown stones for picture purpose cheers Phillip
RE: Another new Memberwith square rigger experience Phillip, I wonder if you armed her with a BB cannon or two if that would bring out some more ship builders Has the paintball world expanded to include any local shooters in your area? They'd be a potential source of club members perhaps?
RE: Another new Memberwith square rigger experience well one would have to look... i`ll try and see but it`s a very specialised field so i doubt it. on paintballs... if there is some relatively easily sullable paint (with alcohol maybe) that one can get off after the battle that might be another way of doing RC sail combat without firing relatively dangerous steel balls... for the wusses and people encumbered by safety fanatics on their local ponds
RE: Another new Memberwith square rigger experience The beauty of BBs it that there is a long history (30+ years) of safe RC naval combat. The parks we are used to using are comfortable with it, and equally important, NAMBA's rules include a special section on combat, which means we can battle with NAMBA insurance, which also give pond owners a warm fuzzy and makes them more likely to let us use their ponds. @Phillip - nice ship Thanks for including the plans you used as well, we're planning to get a sticky of the various plans we've found online, re-rendered into 1:48 for builders to download and print I especially like the pic of the combat between you and the Footy
RE: Another new Memberwith square rigger experience A question i have for you guys is how you do the penetrable sheeting in strongly curved parts of the hull no problem curving balsa in one direction (paralell to the grain, but there is some very complex compund curves on a ship with curvature in 2 directions... is strip planking an option ? (with all the glue in between the strips that would change teh property of t eh sheeting tho..) has anyone ever thought about maybe using thermo formed depron foam as hull material ? even used in 6mm thickness its more penetrable than balsa and after thermo forming retains it`s properties.
yes, can be but depth is limited... so maybe only for the penetrable window. have a look here: http://www.aeroplaza.nl/2-3.shtml making the plug is a bit of work... but repairs should be reasonably quick with several exactly reproduceable new hull covers
That is a gorgeous ship! Well built! The racked masts make it look fast. I actually bought various thicknesses of Depron to test as sheeting on a small destroyer ... but never got around to finishing the destroyer. Heh. Maybe I should put one panel of Depron on one of my normal fighting ships for testing purposes at one of our local battles. The concern about Depron from other folks was possible self sealing properties ... a big no no in model warship combat. Still, we wouldn't know until it is tried. For ships with compound curves, the sheeting technique is usually to use a strip of balsa between each rib section. The piece of narrow enough to do multiple twists without distorting the sheeting.
Thanks guys it`s all as per brookses approach to simple functional pond sailing model. The Sails however make even the crudest hull look great on teh water as for the balsa strips between ribs is there a minimum width allowable between ribs ? This approach actually gives another nice pocibility of plans paper card models like these: http://www.model-shipyard.com/
For the moment, the AoS rules do not specify a minimum distance between ribs. The only specs are no more than 15% hard area (total width of bow, stern, and ribs added together) of the hull's length. 15% really don't stretch very far. Heh. Horizontally, no stringers or wood against the outer hull skin that is not part of the main deck or below the 45 degree turn (or 3" below the waterline) of the hull. The hull may be solid from 2.5" and up from the waterline. If the main deck happens to be under 2.5" (like the Requin), then the main deck may be 3/8" thick against the hull skin. Poses quite the challenge to build on these ships.
On the little tiny things, yes On Minerva, not really close at all. I have 3/4" of solid allowed at the lowest point of the deck amidships, more at bow and stern. Although I may have to forego the removable top 1/2" (withe ye masts and servos on it) as I didn't build the ship with that in mind and it's too late without massive rework at this point...
