has anyone thought of airplanes! i thought since its navy there could be aircraft like fighters with waterprufe moters,extra wings and props incase thay brake and auto BB gun i saw one befor on youtube and it works.
and I would also note that you will not be able to get insurance for said projectile firing aircraft...
One of the fast gun guys out in CA has a 1/144 pt boat that he is used at a couple of NATs as a convoy ship, its about 6" long and a few ounces.
i thought that the aircraft dident have to meet the scale of the ships but the planes would have there own scale to follow
Every vehicle involved has to be in scale, or it looks silly. That, and arming aircraft is not entirely legal nor safe. The main priority of all the clubs is to keep battling safe.
but i mean the planes are one scale and ships are another but the planes could be as small as posable to try to match up to the ships
Jake, there's still that whole 'Illegal to arm aircraft' thing. One of my personal goals in life is to NOT get arrested.
We've had aircraft take off from aircraft carriers in combat before. They even executed a successful attack on another warship. Since you cannot (physically nor legally) put a cannon on a 1/144 aircraft (or probably even a 1/24 scale aircraft), most big gun clubs allow aircraft a different method of attacking. An aircraft carrier is allowed to have a catapult to launch dummy balsa wood planes that glide about 6 feet. If the dummy plane strikes an enemy ship, it scores a number of points. I have never seen one that leaves a hole, nor have I seen one that launches RC planes. I've seen people make 1/72 scale RC planes (twice as big as our scale), but the wind is simply too powerful for such a small plane to fly on most days. Eventually, somewhere, someone will succeed, but only on a day with absolutely zero wind, which is not very common. We've also had PT boats. Someone built one in the old South Coast Battle Group on a dare. I believe it was a British MTB (Motor-Torpedo Boat, same thing as a PT boat). It carried two spring-powered "torpedo" launchers. Although Big Gun torpedoes are allowed to be 1/4" ball bearings, he could only get the small .177 BBs to fit. The boat even ran in combat once. He sailed out, fired both shots into a battleship, brought the boat home, and promptly retired the boat. He'd built it on a dare, fulfilled the criteria of the dare, and then sold it up north to a member of the WWCC (my club). I got to see it sitting on a shelf, although it was never run again. I also know of a member of the WWCC who built a PT boat. He has not armed it, since he became distracted working on his battleship Bismarck, cruiser Lutzow, destroyer Le Fantasque, and cargo ships Cimarron and LST. The LST (Landing Ship: Tank) is fully functional: it can run up on a beach, open it's clamshell doors, drop the ramp, and a little tank can drive out. It was used in the 2005 Campaign Game to assault a beach guarded by two shore defense gun batteries, which I mentioned in another thread. We also have a number of combat submarines in the WWCC. I have seen four different subs in action. Three of them were "dynamic" diving, which means they needed to be moving forward in order to dive. The fourth does not dive yet, although the builder has plans for a future refit. Three of the four submarines were the gigantic Japanese submarine aircraft carriers of the I-400 class. The other was a huge French "cruiser submarine" called the Surcouf. The I-400 carried two torpedo tubes that fired two 1/4" ball bearing "torpedoes" from each barrel. The Surcouf had the same armament. I-401 carried four torpedo tubes firing one 1/4" ball bearing each. I-402 is the most recent sub. She carries a single tube firing four 1/4" balls, and does not yet dive. They are only moderate weapons in combat. They are slow, which makes it hard to attack a fast warship. When they hit, however, they tend to cause significant damage. They are very "tweaky," however, and break down very easily. Most Big Gun clubs allow minelayers to deploy naval mines. They do not explode, as that would be very unsafe. Instead, we use a strand of fishing line with floats. The minelayer drags the mine field out behind it, then drops it off at the right location. An unfortunate victim then sails over the fishing line, which is sucked into the propellers and tangles them up. The victim is either stopped or slowed significantly, making it a prime target. The WWCC decided that mines were no fun and outlawed them. Imagine: you spent a thousand dollars and almost a year building your battleship so it can fight, but it is taken out of action at the big annual Campaign Game in the first few minutes by a stupid bit of fishing line. There are too many other ways for our boats to break down to allow a weapon like that. I know a few people who have mounted a video camera on their boat. For the most part, we simply record the video and watch it later. We once tried to transmit the video from the ship to a monitor on shore, but the video wasn't clear and we couldn't fight with it. Still, though, carrying a camera into battle provides a fascinating and unique view of our models. A rescue tow-cable is an interesting idea. We've had a guy build a hook launcher with a string. He would shoot it over a disabled ship and try to tow it. It worked moderately well. He could pull in a straight line slowly but surely, though he really struggled with turns. Someone else made a thread about using a tugboat to two a ship, although that involved a line tied to the bow of a ship before entering the water rather than a hook deployed across a disabled vessel. For the most part, when a vessel is disabled, we push it back home rather than use a complex towing system. Ok, I've covered airplanes, PT boats, landing craft, submarines, mines, on-board cameras, and tow-cables. Anything I've missed? I'll see if I can dig up some photos,too. If you have any more ideas, let me know. I've got plenty of stories of stuff that I've seen, and I've seen a LOT of stuff. "Been there, done that." Use your imagination, but at the end of the day, remember that we all like battleships, and you'll need a battleship if you want to be a serious competitor with us.
That's...amazing. A working scale PT boat has got to be a challenge to make. RC carrier launches and landings(especially landings) have got to be insanely difficult as well. Now, I know that RC tanks is a thing, and people have fights with them...albeit usually at larger than 1/144 scale. Has there ever been a cross-genre battle, with say, cargo ships delivering actual tanks and the like?
You might want to re-read the first paragraph of my post about RC carrier operations. I've done RC tanks. The vast majority of RC tank combat is done in 1/16 scale, nine times larger than our 1/144 scale. They also use an infra-red laser tag system, which is completely incompatible with our ball bearing cannons. There are a few guys who build 1/6 scale tanks with paintball guns (including a couple people on this forum, I believe), but they are even further out of scale. In my third paragraph, you'll find a note about a 1/144 LST that can land a (roughly) 1/144 tank on a beach. The tank does not shoot, only drive up the beach to a certain level. A combat landing has only been attempted once, and failed because the doors became stuck. It has been used successfully in plenty of tests and demonstrations, so even though it isn't used in combat any more, it still has that "wow" factor.
Yknow, I somehow missed that in your post. That's pretty impressive...kudos to those that have accomplished those.
They make 1/24 scale tanks and really mini r/c tanks that shoot airsoft b b pellets. You could use them probably.
If the LCT is too small than you could use a large convoy ship to move 1 or 2 mini tanks that shoot air soft bbs.
Not to be completely rude, but: Too big, too heavy. Edit: To elaborate: Most convoy vessels that you'll see running are only 6ish inches at the beam. Your 1/24 scale tank is about 6 inches wide. You'd be putting a good chunk of weight topside, making it harder to handle the ship and much more top heavy. Also if you wanted to drive off the ship - you cant just drive a tank off the deck of a liner, its a drop. the ships that sit low enough to make it even feasible dont have a prayer of being able to be ballasted correctly to hold 5+ pounds of tank on their decks, not even thinking about what its going to do to their waterline and handling when you _remove_ that 5lbs of tank. Also I think it would look ridiculous to have a 1/24 scale tank sitting on a 1/144 scale ship
