This is a placeholder to remind me to put up pictures as the first build progresses slowly. but first a big shoutout to cannonman who cranked out a couple of prototype cannon parts for me (the only parts that require machining in this design that can't be done via dremel) I will post some pictures as I get time to work on them (and get the required parts in the mail). At that time I will post the theory of operation and any test results sofar. I expect at least 3-4 iterations on the machined parts assuming it can be made to work well. the prototype is designed around 1/4" shot. -Greg
And now for the quick one barreled mockup no more teasers until I get in more hardware. that part is the only set of parts that can't be readily produced with a drill/dremel tool by anyone. Shown below again, is the 1 barreled start... should that work the plugs in the side will be removed and two additional barrels will be added.... making one up tube to the breech for 3 barrels.....
Have your purchased parts arrived yet???? huh huh.... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... are they there yet... Hurrrrrryyyyy!!!!! I wanna See it together!!!!!
o-rings and steel barrels are on order... a non-optimal brass tube size is on order also (what I wanted was just too expensive for what it was, and I have a stub to check to see if it is really needed). I plan to do as little permanent assembly as possible to test the single barrel configuration, if that works as planned, then we will see. I just hope I don't need any shims for th breech, although if I do I'll figure something out -Greg
Looks interesting, how do you end up feeding three barrels with one uptube? Looking forward to see if this works. Beaver
if it works (or doesn't) I will let you know. I plan to test the single barrel config first.... then multiple... now if gainful employment would only come faster I would be able to get more done edit... passed first test tonight. no o-rings but rounds feed and are selected properly for the 0th test.... many more to go but that is a good start.
Don't worry that if you use the extra I sent that there are no more, I could (and probably should have) send a couple more. I'm not sure how many I made, but I probably have another dozen I didn't send in case you needed an easy modification.
I should have sent the o-rings I had that I was playing with.... I didn't know you would need them. Any hardware stores close by??
nope.. and the standard O-rings for the parts are a non common mix. the large one is metric, the small one is well, small
yep. everything should come in early next week for the feeding check tests.... after that I need to get employed so I can get the high pressure leg set up and a straight mag built. I did some checks last night and it seems like the forward bearing has a tolerance band of between 0.3 and 0.5mm in axial position... more tbd once o-rings come in.
I got the parts yesterday. so far so good. uncompressed O-ring requires about 0.4N of force to pass the round through, which should allow for good compression characteristics (equates to a bit under 2psi pressure). I need to add either spanner wrench holes or flats for tightening. Barrel nut bore is about 0.005 inches larger than I would like compared to the stainless barrel. The stainless barrel is on the tight side of the tolerance band as well, and might need to be honed out a skosh (11$ bore hone from mcmaster carr would work perfectly) Other than that it seems to work at low pressure but I have a bunch more low pressure feeding tests to do
I was wondering if there was a barrel tightening plan. Are you considering Flats on the barrel or the nut?? I cut my darn fingers messing with one... careful.... they a sharp!!!
that was an oversight on my part. it does need flats. I had hoped to get the O-ring sized sufficient that a light twist on the barrel was all that was needed
I haven't had a chance to play with these yet, other than to make some more plugs that are more form fitting on the I.D. I will have time this weekend though. When are you expected to have your move completed?
move on dec 4th but I will be in temporary housing for a few months so no permanent address or place to work till then
O-rings are as follows: large one 2.4mm thick, 6.3mmID metric O-ring, BUNA, 70A Small one is standard, -103 o-ring size, probably needs to be the softest silicone O-ring available for sealing reasons. Let me know how the playing goes... Mine are sadly boxed
Thanks Greg, I ordered them and they should be here Tuesday Unbelieveable.... One metric we were out of, and the other so uncommon we don't stock it!! Oh well. The silicone ones at McMaster were the same Durometer as the buna so I cheaped out. We will see how it works.
Lets see how it works. I am hopeful that with a properly timed system (or sensed system) that the aft O-ring could be done away with... but we will see. I fully expect us to come up with some variations on the theme