So it's been a few years since previous intro thread. I've been out of the all the rc hobbies for nearly 5 years. the reason for this is fairly significant. I was forcibly retired from my career/trade of nearly 20 years as a Mechanic and fabricator. Basically, I worked too hard and screwed the muscles and tendons in both my hands and arms... twice... it can't be repaired, and my chances of getting the strength and sustainablity back beyond most every day chores is pretty much Nil ... anyways enough of the sob story, what this means is I'm in the middle of a career change and learning some pretty slick stuff. All of this can be directly used in my hobby life (yay!) , and should eventually garner me alot more disposable income and time (double yay!) I'm going through the motions and schooling for Mechanical Engineering, I've just completed the 3d designing and print/plan developing course, heading into the 'big leagues' of schooling soon. I'm from Ladysmith BC, Vancouver Island... if theres a battling group around here I haven't stumbled across them yet, it appears Washington Cascade is my closest chance, but the ferries a rather expensive beast for a day of playing. either way looks like I'm going to be building under IRC fast gun rules ... but I have this problem, I like weird ships, and the challenge of running them (this comes from playing navyfield of all things, use that against me if you wish LOL ) .. little ships against big ones, 'battle' carriers, and submarines ... not even necessarily running head long at them and slugging it out, but tactics/games .. and ofcourse add in if they look so weird it's cool so my aspiring ship list looks like this, - Uganda - my 'slugger' till I can get a capital ship together (and also the ship my grandfather served on) - Albatross - in it's repair designation as a cargo/convey boat (just looks so weird its cool) - submarine - I400 or argonaut , Love rc subs... had a few already - Tone - mogami based battle carrier - Yamato - eventually need a battle ship, LOVE the looks of the yammy even as just a rc model I'm expecting my ordered 3d printer in November very very closely watching the advancements you guys are making with being able to 3d print parts. I'm also pretty jazzed to be able to fully 3d model the ship and its insides for planning and placement
Welcome Reckless. There's no Uganda hull available now, as per the Fiji thread. In 2010 I completely rebuilt Steve Hill's model of HMCS Ontario, which he made from one of his Fiji/Uganda/Swiftsure hulls. Attempts to buy the mold from him have failed and he's not interested in making or selling more hulls. If you want an Albatross hull I plan to make one on Sunday, outside temperature permitting. I had one in stock but just sold it. I really like Albatross's weird appearance - nice WWII camo scheme too (see the illustration for the Profile Morskie 1/144 scale plan). The Tone Class were 2 heavy cruisers with all main turrets forward. Ibuki, which I'm building for Washington Treaty Combat rules, was the carrier built on a Mogami Class hull but isn't a 'legal' IRCWCC ship because it wasn't fully completed. Whether it is 'legal' or not doesn't matter if you're using it outside of sanctioned IRCWCC events. Website member 'Bryan' has Ralph Coles' Mogami hull mold if you want to do the conversion; my Ibuki build thread is on this site. My set of 4 molds for the I-400 (upper and lower hull, hangar and conning tower) is packed and about to be shipped to Strike Models. I-400 is the 11th of my hull molds sold to Strike (I-400, Hood, Vanguard, Furious, Courageous, Abercrombie/Roberts, Gorgon, Kent/Canarias, Duke of Edinburgh/Warrior, Espana, Sri Ayuthia). I donated the hull plug for Strike's Profintern mold and will be making more molds for light and heavy cruisers in 2015-2016. At one time there were 3 Yamato Class battleships in NABS (a Nova Scotia IRCWCC club). Good combat models but massively heavy when sunk. I think Admiral Stokamoto (Curt Stokes) strained his back more than once retrieving his Yamato after a sink. They can be a challenge to transport and store due to size and are quite complicated to build and maintain. I recommend starting with a heavy cruiser or a battlecruiser. If you want a Commonwealth ship Strike sells the Kent Class heavy cruiser (highly recommended - I have HMS Suffolk and SNS Canarias, which use the same hull). Strike also sells the Arethusa Class light cruiser (mold made by Rob Clarke - another NABS member) and battlecruiser Invincible. Ralph Coles (also a NABS member) sells the 2" longer and 10% heavier Indefatigable and has a few hulls in stock. I'm building an Indefatigable now, having downsized from Hood.
thank you for the information!. The only group I have a hope of combating with at this point is Washington Cascade. The list above is stuff I want/will model anyways so if I can make them combat models at the same time all the better. I've been looking at who has what hulls available... but at this point I'm in the I wanna 3d model/print my own. the sub for sure, I have an idea in my head need to hit the 3d modeling and see if it'll work. done subs before so i'm not new to that rodeo. the sub and the destroyer ..CAD'ing and printing the hull bits will allow me to incorporate things into the construction to free space, etc transport/storage thankfully for me isn't that big an issue... reign of the basement/workshop area is mine (only area of the house I get LOL ).. and van has 8ftx4ft flat cargo area
If you make an I-400 hull make sure it's at least 1/2" deeper than scale. Otherwise you're guaranteed to have stability problems and lack room for equipment. I deepened the Battlers Connection hull when I built my I-400 but not quite enough so my version is deeper.
yes, I've tried to gather as much information I could from your trials and build of the I400 (and whatever other small scraps of info I could find) been poking the Washington cascade and IRC guys to see what I'm allowed to enlarge the hull and dive planes on the sub (and the hull of the destroyer ) the 1/144 I400 is pretty close size wise to the 1/72 type VIIC I did before, even with full systems inside there was still a fair bit of room available, placement for balance/stability will be the hingepin ... and I have some ideas floating in my head that only actually making real will see if they work you wouldn't happen to have a source for the plans/profile of the I400 wouldya? ... my google-fu seems to be lacking
Somewhere on this site @Tugboat posted a set of frames, I just don't remember where it was. EDIT: Found it, https://rcwarshipcombat.com/threads/i-400-stuff.407445/#post-3637
The early part of the I-400 hull project was a joint effort with two other NABS members, but I ended up having to repair the hull plugs after they were left unfinished for months in a damp location; I did all the work on the hull molds and had made the conning tower and hangar molds 10 year earlier to replace the BC items with more accurate ones. The new I-400 hull was designed with a cad program to deepen it and modify the lines accordingly, working from a set of plans I got on-line. I didn't do the cad work but must have a copy of the modified hull design used to make the molds - probably in a bin of dozens of rolled ship plans.
aye ... I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel... just give it fancy rims ..LOL what I see in my head is basically a double hull... nothing free-flooding below the deck-line .. the 'double hull' would be the penetrable area, all pen areas linked, but not vented. a single hole would be fairly slow to fill, any more holes would of-course accelerate that, full surface if the hole was high enough would stop the influx of water. This would also make it a massive sitting duck to get fulla holes. ballast would be water bags of what ever size/config to be most effective. the ballast required to pull down the non free flooding hull enough to dynamic dive MAY be enough to bring it back up after a sink to aid recovery ... and with the pen double hull design even if the ballast dump is enough to bring it back up it would be rolled over or at the very least unable to stay upright (ie not a hope of still fighting) .. which would have to be put to the mercy of group/admins if it's 'legal' as it would be sorta honor based on the off chance the sub leveled out. ofcourse.. ballast setup can be changed ... just a thought on aiding recovery of sunk sub as they can take off while sinking lol
when you deepened the hull did you rescale the profiles accordingly? did you scale the length too? ... I found a pdf'd basic plan set that I've been doing some down and dirty scaling and scetching in CAD so I can move them into 3D ... just wanna make sure I'm rescaling/dimensioning 'properly'
That's right. All we did with the program was deepen the hull 1/2" (or was it 5/8"?), maintaining the scale loa and beam and modifying the profile and cross-sections.
so you deepen at the "lower" portion of the saddles? in so keeping the scale max beam? and heres a goofy question.... beam is as measured at waterline yes? I'm ofcourse trying to get every bit extra I can in the hull, without getting too cheeky LOL ... all the 'bulgy' parts are beneath the waterline (or where beam as I understood it is measured) Either way I goofed my rescaling the plans in CAD by like an inch so I gotta redo it all anyways
The deepening was done amidships with no change to beam. Beam is measured at the widest part of the ship and is rarely at the waterline. If you want an extreme example check out photos of WWII carrier HMS Hermes - far wider at the flight deck than the waterline.
Just wanted to share ... this is what's left of my collection after a major sell off a couple years ago during the workers comp b.s. ...
