SMS Moltke

Discussion in 'Warship Builds' started by silverwing, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. silverwing

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    My previous build thread was taken down for some reasonl. All that work is now lost, so I have to make a new thread.
    EZ Links here:
    Pictures: Ship Profile: http://www.rcnavalcombat.com/OurShi...fault.aspx
    OK, what's going on is the build has been postponed. I need more money to continue it. It was a trade from Ed Wainwright, but I fear something has happened to him. He never sent me the rest of the radio or Co2 tank and isn't responding to my emails. I've sent him the agreed half of the payment, but I know he had some heart problems so he may not be with us anymore. It's missing a transmitter, two batteries, an 3.5 oz Co2 tank, and other "accessories". I need some help with finding deals, batteries , etc. My pump is from Strike Models LBL-G6. It's not listed on their site anymore, but I'm sure that's the model. It says it right on the box. I see it's a 6V motor I guess, judging by the current Large Bilge Pumps on his site, but what kind of battery should I use for it? Also, what kind of battery should I use for the radio? I might have to get a new one since I don't even know what frequency this thing speaks in. Any suggestions on that?
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    Radio? Get this its cheap and the receiver is easy to waterproof. http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/dx5e-dsmx-5-channel-transmitter-receiver-only-md2-SPM5510
    Batteries are cheap - probably built to run on a 12ah SLA or two 7ah. 20 bucks each tops.
    Doesnt need such a large tank a 3.5oz tank will do it. You can get one from Strike or BC for around 60 bucks. In the baden I NEVER needed a larger tank, it would have been nice but didnt need it. For 3 guns its more than enough.

    So roughtly 200 bucks. You can swing that in 3 weeks of mowing yards.

    It would need new motors so add 20 bucks to the total when you buy your tank from BC or STrike.
     
  4. silverwing

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    Well Darn I thought I lost it! Yeah it's that's fine, lock it.
    Anyways, an update on work done today, I cut up the air bladder of a punching bag that I broke (Went too Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali on it or something) and cut it up, used UltraCoat and a heat iron on it and worked great. it can't take too high of pressure but that's my new idea. I'm going to attach this bladder to the bottom of my superstructure for maximum floatation, inflate it, and when my ship sinks, the superstructure will detach with my 200 lb test line (might swap out for 50 lb fishing line) and I will be able to pull it back up above the water line. I also need to know what frequency this radio broadcasts on. This specs are as follows:
    The radio is a Futaba FP-R127DF
    It says this on, In orientation with word placement;
    Futaba FP-R127DF
    Dual Conversion
    FM 7 Channel Receiver (-7 Channel-and -Receiver- are in smaller font and on top of each other
    The crystal says;
    Dual Conversion 64 (64 is larger font, on a yellow flag taking up two lines of space, it's the channel number)
    75.470 RX
    Reverse side;
    64( in big and yellow again) Type 92-10
    Rx 75.470
    I would like an equivalent radio for cheap, since this stuff is so old I could prob get one for just about free. I would also like to be able to adjust the throws and the like.
     
  5. silverwing

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    I had a typo on the 8oz Co2 tank. That's what we use in paintball lol. Why would I need new motors?
     
  6. jadfer

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    motors are disposable in this hobby. I would replace a set that had been sitting for a while and for sure in the pump. However if I bought the motors new I would know how much wear and tear they had on them, and I could maintain them by keeping the bearings oiled. If you are not going to be battling anytime soon then you can use them for testing driving if they work but I personally wouldn't battle old motors... I don't want to be dead in the water...
     
  7. silverwing

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    I just got a new pump. Which motors should I use? Strike Models is down so I guess I'll need to order from Battler's Connection
     
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    yep they can get u taken care of
     
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    Just make sure to oil your bushings for longer life. I didn't for a couple sets and they only lasted about a days worth of battling. But I have bought many motors from BC and I am quite happy.
     
  10. silverwing

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    What motors should I use?
     
  11. silverwing

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    Edit: the pump cam from Battlers Connection, that's why the part number didn't match XD
     
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    http://www.battlersconnection.com/html/motors.html

    You want the 550 motors
     
  13. silverwing

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    Ok thanks. What kind of battery should I use? It powers the pump and motors.
     
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    That depends on your weight, space, budget, and use. The least expensive, but also least capable would be a single 6V12Ah SLA. Going up from there would be a 20Ah SLA. I have a pair of 6V10Ah NiMH packs in my Moltke, which is another step up in cost from the SLA. Above that, cost wise, would be LiFe battery packs, which provide yet more capacity for the weight but have a yet again higher price. If you're sticking to standard 550 motors for the drive and pump and dont plan on needing overly long run times, you can probably get away with 12Ah batteries. I'd feel more comfortable with 20Ah, either SLA or NiMH, but that's me and I run a fairly hot pump. Also, looking at your photos you look very much on the light side of the weight. You might want to go with more battery just to get you lower in the water to cut down on that billboard effect. ;)
     
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    I run 3-10amp 6 volt packs of NiMH in my Moltke.
     
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    Regular 550-size geared are fine. I got my Invincible (speed 26 battlecruiser) to speed with 400-size motors direct drive to a pair of 3-blade 35 pitch props with 2 identical drag props.
    I have always run a 6V 12AH SLA battery in the I-boat and it's never run short of power in a battle.
     
  17. silverwing

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    I think when I weighed it it came out to about 7.5 pounds. Factoring in you must displace equal or more water to float, and water is 8 lbs a gallon, I think I'll do just fine with flotation. Where can I get these batteries? I see Strike Models has some, but his largest is 5aH and he'll be shut down til July. I don't want to spend more than $50 on these.
     
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    Which batteries? The SLAs, or the NiMH?

    Weight-wise, you really want to wind up close to the scale weight. If you're too light, you'll be a big billboard-type BB magnet (lots of hull sticking out of the water).

    @Bob, can you run the Moltke all day on those?
     
  19. silverwing

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    I guess I'd have to go with NiMH since my charger can charge just about anything but it doesn't know what an SLA battery is (neither do I lol.)
     
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    SLA = Sealed Lead Acid