stupid newbee question

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  1. boater26

    boater26 Member

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    I've read the rules many times but i still cant figure out cane you have a 1/2 or 1/4 cannons, or do they have to be 1 1/2, and 1 1/4.[?]
     
  2. mike5334

    mike5334 Well-Known Member

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    Which set of rules? MWC? IRCWWC? Big Gun? Etc ...
     
  3. boater26

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    ircwcc
     
  4. Tugboat

    Tugboat Facilitator RCWC Staff Admiral (Supporter)

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    You can use cannons of 1 unit. Some ships can use a .5 unit cannon. But no 1.5 or 1.25 unit cannons.
     
  5. rarena

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    Cannons can be 1 1/2 if the units of the ship allow for it. For example My Arizona is 5 1/2 units. I have 1 full unit pump, 3 50 shot cannons and one 75 shot cannon. You cannot split the 1/2 unit, you cannot have two 1/2 unit guns instead of one full unit gun. I hope this helps, Please ask if you have more questions, as the rules are sometimes confusing to all of us.
     
  6. TheMackster

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    For another example, my class 3 (3 unit) cruiser can have:

    1 gun, 1 gun, 1 pump (total = 3)
    or
    1.5 gun, 1 gun, .5 pump
    or
    1 gun, 1 gun, .5 gun, .5 pump

    Hope this helped clear things up for you.

    Mack
     
  7. mike5334

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    IRC lets a captain split whole units up like that?
     
  8. crzyhawk

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    No they dont. A 3.0 unit cruiser in the IRCWCC gets 2 50 round guns and a pump. That's about your only option.

    Ships only get to tack on the extra unit to make a 75 round gun if they have a spare half unit: ie a 5.5 unit ship as to put that other .5 unit somewhere. Only class 2 and below can split up units.
     
  9. warspiteIRC

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    Rule below:

    d. Any authorized ½ battle unit may be used as either of the following:

    1) A ½ unit pump, provided it is the only pump on the ship; or


    2) A 1 ½ unit single shot cannon with a 75 BB magazine

    e. Ships in Class 2 or smaller may use their battle units in one-half unit increments for either cannons or pumps.
     
  10. HMCS

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    Hey Mack I think your last two options are for Treaty only.
     
  11. TheMackster

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    Under IRCWCC rules, part 5, cannons
    "5. Except as provided in section 11.e, below, a ship may mount only a single one-half (½) unit cannon in its offensive armament, and a whole cannon unit shall not be divided into smaller (½ or ¼) unit cannons.
    and
    11 e. Ships in Class 2 or smaller may use their battle units in one-half unit increments for either cannons or pumps."

    So, ships class 2 and smaller may freely mix as many 1/2 units as they wish. I agree on that one.

    A class 3 ship (under rule 5) should be able to mount a single only half-unit cannon, leaving it with a 1/2 unit left over for a pump, no?

    Or have I been reading that stupid thing wrong for the last 4 months?

    If part 5 says a ship can mount only a single 1/2 unit cannon, then can't I mount one 1/2 unit gun?

    Mack
     
  12. GregMcFadden

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    It is my understanding that you can not split up units, meaning that you can not have a half unit cannon on a 3 unit ship.
     
  13. crzyhawk

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    Greg is correct. If you use a pump it must be 1.0 units leaving 2.0 units for guns. A 3.0 unit cruiser may not have a .5 unit pump.
     
  14. boater26

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    so that means i cant arm all the guns on a uss colorado and split it up like

    7 1/2 unit cannons
    1 1 unit cannons
    1 1 unit pump
     
  15. GregMcFadden

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    Not in fast gun. IRC also limits side mounts to 1 cannon per side except in certain cases.
     
  16. TheMackster

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    KK, got it now, finally. LOL Only FULL units allowed unless class 2 or smaller, or for the oddballs with the extra .5 units who can use it as a half pump. Just means they now have to fear a full unit spurt gun on my cruiser instead of just a half spurt gun.

    /evil grin
     
  17. boater26

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    ok thanks
     
  18. GregMcFadden

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    the extra .5 unit can also be added to a 1 unit gun to make a 1.5 unit (75 round) gun.

    -Greg
     
  19. NickMyers

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    If you had two ganged together in a turret, one a 1.5 and the other a 1 unit gun, could you use them with a unified magazine for 125 rounds shared?
     
  20. GregMcFadden

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    My understanding is No.

    I see you are in the seattle area. I am in spokane and I know some folks in the seattle area. Have you gotten in contact with Phill lowe?

    Justin is in Tri-cities.

    -Greg