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Discussion in 'General' started by gunner250, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. gunner250

    gunner250 Active Member

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    Why dont any body do the sub marine surf scout?
     
  2. NickMyers

    NickMyers Admin RCWC Staff

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    Would that be the Surcouf you're asking about?

    People have.

    Submarines are small in our hobby, a finicky niche item, and most people who fiddle with them, do so as a side project.
     
  3. Kotori87

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    Yes, the Surcourf has been built and battled in 1:144 scale. I've been sunk by one. Like any submarine in 1:144 scale, it is an exceptionally difficult ship to build and operate. In order for the ship to dive, it has to be ballasted to nearly neutral buoyancy, which can change from day to day as temperature, particulate content, and other factors change. If the ballast isn't perfect, it won't dive and is fishbait for any warship skipper out there. Furthermore, because it's so sensitive, it only takes a little bit of water inside to sink it. If your seals have even the tiniest leak, it will not return to the surface. Lastly, because submarines are designed to operate underwater, ordinary recovery methods like marker floats do not work. So if the ship goes down, you're basically gonna need SCUBA gear to find it again. The guy with the surcouf in my club has on several occasions gone scuba diving for his boat the day after the battle, because we couldn't find it when it sank. On one occasion, he found that it had sailed to the far side of the pond before coming to rest, all without his input at all.

    Non-combat submarines are becoming more common now, since they are not limited to scale size they can be larger to fit more hardware in. These larger ships are equipped with ballast tanks, onboard gas, positive hull pressure, and many powerful automatic safety features. Plus they aren't designed to get shot at. But since combat submarines must be built to scale, they simply don't have the space or weight for that kind of stuff. That's why even the best skippers are hesitant to build a combat submarine.
     
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    Perhaps a distant relation to the HMAS Trollin ? :D
     
  6. gunner250

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    one more question does the turrets rotate
     
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    Not a whole lot. Maybe 15 degrees either side of centerline. Those are great big guns and it's still just a submarine hull, which has vastly different structural requirements than a regular gun platform like a BB does.

    Note: Surcouf only had one gun turret, up in front. The back of the superstructure was the hangar for a scout plane.
     
  8. Tugboat

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    Side note: If you haven't done an RC combat ship before, build a USS Atlanta or DKM Koln before trying a sub. Those are really hard to do right, and a combat sub is even harder.
     
  9. gunner250

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    well it will be a very long time before i could build even a boat he thinks its a waste
     
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    Gunner250, it might be helpful to write an introductory post in the welcome section to let people know what state you live in, your modeling and RC experience, and transportation ability (are you likely to be able to make it to a match). I know you were on here before with a different account, but people will have no way of connecting those two accounts.
     
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