aircraft carriers

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  1. froggyfrenchman

    froggyfrenchman Well-Known Member

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    This is my old big-gun Bearn. The 1/4" quad in the stern is the 30 second
    torpedoes. This is an older model Indiana style that does not rotate.
    Perfect for the carriers.
     
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    My newest Bearn will be set up for Treaty, which is a small-gun variant,
    where aircraft-carriers have more units (based on tonnage). She is a 5 unit
    ship.
    She can also be used in the other small-gun clubs, but will have only 2.5 units. So a pair of stern cannons, and a half-unit pump.
    She can also be used as a convoy-ship in all formats.
    Mikey
     
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    Bow, and stern casemate guns arrangements on old, and new.
    When I built the original, I had no ship drawings to work from.
    For the new version, I had drawings, and a really nice book to
    get info from.
    She is much closer to being scale.
    Mikey
     
  7. JohnmCA72

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    I've seen "capture" used to allow a ship to be surrendered. Surrendering a ship gets way more points charged than getting it sunk, so it's something to be avoided if you care about your team. Then again, if you go dead in the water & don't feel like repairing a bunch of damage when the sharks come to feast, it might be a viable option.

    I've also seen an objective-based scenario for a carrier, where the carrier has to sail a specific straight course to simulate flight ops. Any break from the course & the run doesn't count. Some number of runs is the objective, & if the carrier makes or exceeds that number, it counts as a win. If the enemy can prevent that number of runs, by sinking the carrier, diverting it from its course (within the rules preventing rams, obstruction, etc.), or whatever, then the side without the carrier wins.

    JM
     
  8. Gascan

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    I have seen one instance where a ship was literally "captured" when it got hung up after another ship's float was blown off, and was dragged back into the enemy port. It was scored as a DNR (Did Not Return to port) because he never gave up and was only dragged in after the sortie was over.

    On the other hand, I have seen many ships declare themselves surrendered. For example, I once laid mines along the convoy route. When the Allied convoy got stuck, the French dreadnought Normandie parked and asked the convoy skipper to surrender. After some short, one-sided negotiations ("Do you surrender?" "No!" BANG!) the convoy skipper opted to save his ship from getting shredded and sunk.

    I have some personal opinions about surrender: only surrender if you have no damage or almost no damage and the enemy is able to score critical damage on you. For example, I got mined at the beginning of a sortie, and the sharks came to feast, but I surrendered before they could score a single hit. In a later sortie, I got mines again, but I refused to surrender to a Mogador with only one torpedo tube per side because I knew he couldn't really hurt me. In the last sortie of the day, I took heavy damage, but I refused to surrender because I knew I was already sinking.
     
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    Someone should build the enterprise. Do they sell kits for cariers?
     
  10. FirePowerDan

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    I know this is an old thread but. I am about to build a Ryujo class CV. In the WWCC we have a person who runs a Graf Zepplin from time to time. There was a Shinano built. Never fought. Joe Moore fought a Lexington and a Midway. A Saipan was made but,it to never fought.
     
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    Those Carriers are nice. That's also a nice Gun system too.
     
  12. FirePowerDan

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    Someone built a Hornet with the B-25's on it. The modern Enterprise wit it's compliment of jets was also built. Both were owned by Gene Gaeta. He passed away this past February. He was in the process of building the Russian Kiev class carrier. Mr. Ron Beets purchased them and donated them to a museum in Alameda CA. He also donated his 1/72nd Yamato to this museum. I will try to post the web site as soon as I can find it. There is a 1/72nd WW2 Enterprise there also.
     
  13. Bob Pottle

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    Don Fisher has a 1/144 IRCWCC Hornet with B25s on deck. It battled at NATS 2003 in RI along with a Graf Zeppelin and smaller carriers (Spanish and Japanese).

    Bob
     
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    Gerald built a large Jap carrier years ago. The Hiryu (I think). The deck was full of planes, and he had a smoke generator that sent smoke out the stacks.
    I recall one time when he was running her, that he turned the rudder over hard while at full speed, and the planes were actually vibrating off the side of the flight deck.
    He only used it as a block ship for the targets during convoy battle, but she was too cool.
    Mikey
     
  15. FirePowerDan

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    I am about to venture into building a Japanese Small carrier Ryujo. The hull sits pretty low ( it will sink faster when it gets holes in it). Not a lot of over hang. I have found documentation she went roughly 30kts. No Island Bridge. The reason I want this is my wife is going to run one of those small cargo tramp steamers that the group put together. I want to be on her side no argument. I was torn between the Ca Furataka 3/16 ball bearings 33kts or Ryujo,1/4 inch ball bearings 30kts. These vessels are targets I know. I do not like twin gun battleships and they are getting heavy and to long for me. Is it my fault the Axis people out here are torpedo cruiser fanatics?
     
  16. Gascan

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    Dan, Kotori and I did perfectly well without escorts when we ran our transports. A careful driver can do very well. By the end of the year, it took the club more than 20 minutes of shooting before they gave up and rammed us to death when we took on the club by ourselves. Ryujo is a cool boat, but I don't think you need it to escort your wife if she drives one of the tramp steamers. I think it would do well escorting less maneuverable transports, like John's Mamiya or Mehoshi, and it would also do well on the offense. If you're really concerned, Kotori or I could sail in a convoy with her and provide expert tips on dodging and escaping since we might not have the VU's ready in time.
     
  17. FirePowerDan

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    So you want me to use my Terror Monitor against her? Stop earth men and listen to emperor Ming. I do not want a battleship for reasons I have stated. Humor me and let me build this vessel in peace. It is the same side as she will be running and that is what I want.
     
  18. sms_navy

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    Tony,

    Unarmed carriers have been very popular in IRCWCC campaign battles, everything from CVEs up to the Shinano. Here are some photos:

    2006 IRCWCC Nationals
    http://www.sms-navy.com/rccombat/battles/200607_NATS/200607_NATS-Bat_Convoy.htm

    2007 IRCWCC Nationals
    http://www.sms-navy.com/rccombat/battles/200707_NATS/2007NATS-Convoy.htm
     
  19. Bob Pottle

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    Fire Power Dan,
    If you need help or advice re the Terror contact me. I've built two of them (WWII version in 1984 and WWI version in 1996), sold the hulls until the mold was retired 2 years ago, and built much of sistership Erebus before selling her this summer.

    Bob Pottle
     
  20. BoomerBoy17

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    I'd love to do an unarmed carrier, most likely when im strapped for cash in college. Maybe a nice independence class