AIRCRAFT CARRIERS

Discussion in 'Ship Comparison' started by tbone1941, May 15, 2008.

  1. FirePowerDan

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    Who said no one is building carriers. There coming out of the wood work.
     
  2. BoomerBoy17

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    BC has a cleveland hull, which can be used for an independence class
     
  3. FirePowerDan

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    I really think this type of vessel is the best for our sport. The large carriers are well to large. Billboards. The escort carriers are to slow. Sitting ducks. The CVLs are just right. Hey the three bears syndrom. Ugg[xx(]
     
  4. BoomerBoy17

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    True, but with the big ones, you get alot of volume, with the small ones, you get smaller target, so it evens out. but for me, the CVL is the way to go. i agree.
     
  5. FirePowerDan

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    Back in the days gone by,we use to substitute CVEs as convoy vessels for the lack of anything else to do with them.The problem with building a CVL or CVE is that they are top heavy. If they over hang the hull it gets worse. The lightest materials possible.
     
  6. crzyhawk

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    That's the main reason I am probably going to go with the blue foam for my superstructure on the Belleau Wood. I figure that should be light enough to not harm the stability of the ship at all. Everthing on mine above the hangar deck should be foam, so the center of gravity on the ship should be very low.

    It might not be the prettiest ship on the water, but I am not a modeller anyways. It just needs to be serviceable and WORK. I don't have the patience to build ships that look like the ones coming out of Canada, which are imo, the best looking combat models I've seen.
     
  7. FirePowerDan

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    Just like Star Wars Millneum Falcon. It may not look like much but it has it were it counts. One of the problems is some people get so wrapped up in detail that they chicken out to fight it.
     
  8. crzyhawk

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    The Belleau Wood will definately be a scrapper. I'm really pleased with where the guns sit at the moment, and although a little slower then the cruiser version in Treaty (31 knots instead of 33) and I think she'll be a dangerous ship to ignore.

    In Treaty, many of the larger carriers are also faster then the battleships since we use a system based on what the actual ship did as opposed to a generic speed by length. We then gave them equivalent units to battleships, but limited them to fore and aft quadrants like cruisers. So you're looking at potentially building ships like 5 unit Unryu class carriers with twin rudders on 35 knots. They're essentially super cruisers, that nothing on the pond can easily catch.

    I'm looking forward to someone putting one of those big, fast ladies out there and seeing how it does.
     
  9. bismarck

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    personaly my experiance is yes a bigger carrier can take move, but can be slow moving.
    Im speaking on both sides of the pond. I have both, small and large carries. I belive it depends on the type of game and what your going up agaist.
    if were doing convoy runs then Il take my smaller one, if were versing, bismark class, then il take my bigger one, simply because it can give and take more punishemt.
     
  10. TheKraken

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    Heres A Tip. If A Ship Is Moving In Front Of You To The Left Or Right At Full Speed, Shoot In Front Of Them. The Bullets Will Be Going Straight Through The Hull. Oh And Your Brother Is Right On The Carrier Thing.
     
  11. crzyhawk

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    I'm hoping to have the Belleau Wood on the water at the Treaty conference. I talked to Eric last night, and I am pretty sure we can get some kind of superstructure started on for her. Really, that's all the ship needs at the present. All the internals are in and ready. I may even run the hull around the pond when we aren't battling just to get a bit of a feel for how she handles.
     
  12. Bob Pottle

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    Did you finish the Belleau Wood? How did it perform?
    I've just resuming work on the Ibuki after a 4 month break. I have to finish the quarterdeck and modify the hangar. Compared to photos 2 of 3 plans have the hangar extending too far aft. I have to shorten it and glass on a new aft wall. Then on to the internal systems.
    Bob
     
  13. crzyhawk

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    She's not finished but I took her out to the Ravenna battle, and a couple of captains didn't like the idea of being on the receiving end of how I have the guns positioned. I believe Eric Noble commented "If that isn't illegal in the lower 48 states, it should be".

    On paper, she should be far superior to a standard cruiser.
     
  14. eighthgear

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    How did you lay out all the cannons?
     
  15. crzyhawk

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    Mine is a treaty Belleau Wood. One BB cannon straight forward, one aft.
     
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    How many clubs accept the Uss United States
     
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    I do not think any of the combat clubs accept that ship. Pretty much all of the combat clubs have a cut-off around the end of WW2. Either 1945 or 1946.
    Some of the clubs do allow the Midway class carriers though.
    Mikey
     
  18. CURT

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    For CWC-X a ship like the Midway as configured would be allowed.