Big Gun Submarines

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  1. pew-pew-pew

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    Submarines WWII and WWI had no Torpedo tubes on the side of the subs... can big gun subs have torpedo tubes on the side?

    With Diving: Do Big gun subs only use there sive fins to dive and rise? or DO they only use them to surface and use ballast tanks to dive?
     
  2. lalimerulez

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    i wouldn't know this but as a guess i think it would be alright. Also i would think that they would use the fins to dive and rise. Like a siad before just a guess i don't really know
     
  3. Tugboat

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    No, side torps are not cool, sorry. You can mount torpedo tubes in the original location and facing (i.e. dead ahead and dead astern (if the original had stern tubes, some didn't)). The only weapons a sub can have that fire sideways are deck guns. Most subs had 1, some had 2, and some had none at all. Keep in mind that it is staggeringly hard to do a sub in small gun. Doing it in 1/144 Big Gun with torps and deck guns will be impossible. I hate to use that word, but I'm using it. Impossible. Not enough space nor weight for all the tubes, cannons, CO2 system, and oh, yeah, batteries.

    Sorry to say it so bluntly, but I don't want you to waste money on something that ain't possible.
     
  4. pew-pew-pew

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    Well, my dad and I have changed our minds a bit... We're doing big gun instead. But i was making sure about the sideways torpedo thing... No pictures of Big gun Subs had side mounted torps, judging by the pictures. As far as diving, How does that waork?
     
  5. JasonC

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    a sub i never sugested only the best of the best builder ever attempt them and many of the fail many times at making a sub. and i think all combat subs are dinamic dive so the dive with the planes and not by flooding a tank
     
  6. Kotori87

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    Correct. All current Big Gun RC combat submarines submerge by adjusting the diving planes then moving forward. While its theoretically possible to use other methods, no others have successfully been implemented.

    I personally wouldn't say that submarines are impossible to build, its been proven possible. With all torpedoes, deck guns, and diving, thats impossible. But a Big Gun submarine, with 2-4 tubes armed in the front? That's a lot more do-able. However, due to the difficult construction and difficult battling, submarines are not what I'd recommend to a beginner. In fact, I wouldn't recommend one for a second or third ship, either. Maybe a fourth... I'm hoping for a submarine as my fourth...
     
  7. pew-pew-pew

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    Would you happen to know the diameter for the BDE cannon that only has two barrels and shoots 1/4 bearings ?
     
  8. pew-pew-pew

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    And By what ive heard, i have no intenstions of building a submarine... I did my calculations and accoriding to them- the Narwhal calss submarine would be 29 inches long and an amazing 2.75 inches Wide! Which is about the width of an Oreo Cookie.... Yum :)
     
  9. Tugboat

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    Carl, I didn't say subs per se were impossible. I said that a sub with torps, deck gun, and full diving would be. And I stand by that assessment. A big or small gun sub just using torps is possible (in fact, the Argonaut hull in a moving box here somewhere was built for that purpose :)
     
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    If my memory is not failing me I think the K-Class subs did have side mounted torpedoes. Will have to look it up.

    Pax,
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  11. Tugboat

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    Your memory serves you well, I had forgotten Britain's K-class with 2 sidemount tubes per side... but she's lil DINKY in scale :) Gawd only knows how they fit all that into the real thing :)
     
  12. lalimerulez

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    Attack of the over sized oreo cookes. Yummy.
     
  13. Tugboat

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    Got to agree w/ Zac on this one.
     
  14. Kotori87

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    Gosh, the body of my torpedo cannons is about the same size as an oreo. Now I'll tell my unfortunate victims that they were victims of a delicious snack. Any and all complaints are to be filed with Nabisco Corporation in Chicago.
     
  15. Tugboat

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    I'm just glad the rules don't limit the amount of creamy filling :)
     
  16. lalimerulez

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    the best part :)
     
  17. pew-pew-pew

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    Would you happen to know the diameter for the BDE cannon that only has two barrels and shoots 1/4 bearings ?
     
  18. shakeyboba

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    You gentelman are forgetting the size of the I 400 and also the French Surcouf, In scale I think the french ship is 52" long and almost 6" wide with 2 8 inch for cannons. Just sailing on the surface it is a small exposed target.
     
  19. Tugboat

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    Surcouf has a beam of 29.5 feet, so she's only 2.45" wide in 1/144 scale. The I400 is wider, but not enough to be REALLY wider.

    If you're hell bent on subs, then you're probably stuck building the torpedo tubes yourself, Jorge. I'd tell you if I knew of anyone manufacturing them, but I don't.
     
  20. pew-pew-pew

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    I would hate to build one at this point ;) But My dad loves thinging about building one....

    Anyway, Were there any American Aircraft carring subs?