Bismarck Winter Work

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  1. tgalx3

    tgalx3 Well-Known Member

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    It didnt get messed up. I think I can make it better and quieter. Loud boats bother me.
     
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    Better is good, quieter is good. Those of us who use gearboxes though accept that there will be some noise :)
     
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    Oh I know. I meant for my boat. I like my Bismarck nice and quiet!
     
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    To each is own as well.
     
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    quiet ships are creepy, theyre like ghosts on the water :D
     
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    Oh YA!!! Especially a six foot long ghost.
     
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    tommorrow is sharhorst day, going to work with pete on his boat and trie to get it skinned.
     
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    Epoxy is setting up in the Derf's hull right now to seal the new stuffing tubes in place. After that she just basically just needs patching and paint.
     
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    Im going to try to get the pump and new prop shaft done. Does anybody have copper tubing I can use for a new coil?
     
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    no copper tubing here, have not done that kind of work yet. did ge the sharnhorst skined, but no luck on on the armor belt thing, one on top of the other. was too hard cold not get lined up. skinned like before. way to fustrating to do and time consuming at least for me:(. also started putting the sub deck in the tirpitz.
     
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    I finished the prop shaft, pump, and some cosmetic work to the turrets. I want to be sheeting here in the next day or so. I take pictures and show you how I did my armor belt. Maybe itll make things easier for the tirpitz. Six feet of Balsa wood and armor belt can be a huge pain in the butt!
     
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    Well, its fairly important that the belt be visible, since you only get stringers where the hullform requires them - such as the clearly visible edge of an armor belt.

    If you choose not to make the belt visible, you're really not supposed to get the stringer either, since an invisible armor belt doesn't require any alterations to the hull form. Same thing for those of us with casemates - if we don't model them, we don't get the hard area around them.

    Not going to ask you to rip off the Scharn's skin right now, but just saying - it should be done right. With longer belts you may find it works best to do it in sections. I tend to dry-fit my balsa, mark and cut the pieces before actually attaching them. Have to be careful to make sure don't have more than 1/8" overlap, and that it is only over the stringer itself, if you're using the overlap method. Definitely something that requires patience, but its the cost for stringers.
     
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    Alex - I have copper but the soonest I'd have any sort of time to go anywhere/meet up would be Friday afternoon or maybe sometime Saturday. You may just want to stop by a Lowes or Home Despot if you'd want it before then.

    Have you made a coil before? I've never managed it successfully... After a point I declared it to be a waste of copper to continue trying and went back to ordering.
     
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    Ya Im gone this weekend. Ill go to home depot. Is it 1/4"?

    No I have never tried it. I have a few tricks up my sleeve. Should be a fun project though.
     
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    Yeah, 1/4" OD, comes in coils in the plumbing section. Usually in a pretty flat looking cardboard box.
     
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    Yes indeed I know the stuff. Wish me luck! lol!
     
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    Good luck!

    (PS: I don't recommend trying to form an entire coil in a spring bender at once, tried that, couldn't get the spring back off...)
     
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    Sounds good! Ill keep it in mind.
     
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    Since you are asking about copper mags. I would save yourself the money and just buy a coil mag. Straight mags are easy, Bending straight mags still pretty easy. BUT, copper tubing is a pain to bend that tight for that many turns.
     
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    I will take the help with the armor belt on the tirpitz. totally lost on how to do it, need a demonstration or pics something.... thx