Buckeye Battle Squadron

Discussion in 'General' started by specialist, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. Anachronus

    Anachronus Well-Known Member

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    The boot topping strips are a 1/4" in most rule sets. I think if you set the top of that strip at the max. draft point it should be good.
     
  2. Tugboat

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    Well, since you asked... we base units on the 'standard displacement', so let's start with that. :)
     
  3. Anachronus

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    Ah...well that does make more sense.
     
  4. specialist

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    I assume that your reference to 'standard displacement' is a joke.
    As standard displacement does not include fuel or reserve feed water, which are a signifigant amount of a ships full load displacement.
    I suspect that such a proposal would find little favor, as it would drasticaly reduce the amount of weight avaible for installed equipment.
     
  5. Buddy

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    Hey guys hold on a sec! I agree with the ships are loaded down to what would be considered fighting weight but at the same time I have seen some loaded down with a extra bit or as some would say built heavy, any way I agree if you look at pics from navy records you would see how the ships sat and then compared them to combat ships you can tell when some are really not where the are supposed to be.
    Any how in anwser to the first question A.name your ship? If you are only off a little bit like you said on weight you are fine next? Guns as long as you dont have that machine gun event going you are fine, if you start getting it like kenny said we may ask you to slow it down a little. Ok what speed is your ship running now? Likew I said before the speeds we put in place only effected certain ships ,so give me the name and speed you are running and I will tell you where it sets easy!. Het where are you located ?
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  6. Tugboat

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    As we are all friends and gentlemen here, I'll assume that you did not mean for that to sound as bad as it read.

    Many rulesets and many actual navies refer to the 'standard displacement' of a ship. So, no it's not a joke. Whether you disagree with the concept or not, it exists and we don't get to tell the navies of the world how to define their terms. If you're battling in MWC (which is what I was talking about), I'll point you to the shiplist, which lists 'standard displacement'. And to the CBS rules that refer to it.

    As far as using it to determine the waterline...

    I should have made it clear that I was speaking in jest as regards a rule proposal. That is my mistake, and it won't be repeated. With a rule set as well-established as MWC's is, I prefer few rule changes, as it would be easy to throw off the game balance without carefully thinking any changes through.
     
  7. Bob

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    Ships that carry around a lot of extra weight are at a disadvantage. They don't start and stop as well. Their motors work harder to move them, draining more power. They don't turn as well. They can't take as much damage. I'd rather have a ship a little on the light side.
    For example the MWC NC class can have 38.62 pounds. Most people fight them around 35 pounds. One guy had it weighted down more (2004 I think), to cut down on the penitrible area and took the extra weight out because he saw how a lighter ship moved.
     
  8. specialist

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    That was not ment to read badly... but it might have looking at it now.

    What I ment was that "standard displacement" was an artifact of the the treaties. No ship ever went to sea in that condition. (except maybe if it was being towed to the breakers) So using that as draft/freeboard/waterline, would be silly.

    My feeling is that most of the ships in MWC are ok as far as weight goes. If someone does go too far in "target reduction" they usaly pay for it in lack of sea worthyness. So there is no reason to mess with the weight/freeboard rules, as they self enforce reasonable levels of weight.





     
  9. Buddy

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    Hi Guys
    Hey the BBS is haveing their Micro Nats which is a 3 day event and I would like to invite the Mich group to think about coming down and battleing with us. We have a privsate pond that we have access to and there is a place to bring and Rv and camp right there!
     
  10. mike5334

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    When is the Micro Nats? ")
     
  11. froggyfrenchman

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    Second week in August I think.
    Mikey
     
  12. klibben

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    Our battle calendar says the 8th, 9th, and 15th...... Me smells a mistake!

    I've posted a message on our site asking for clarification for which of those two weekends it is.... it's three days though, I do know that.
     
  13. Buddy

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    Hi guys sorry I am late the Micro Nats is 8,9,10 of aug. If you are interested drop me a line and I will send the information on hotels and such.There will be a entry fee for torphys, co2 and lake useage that is paid to the owners of the pond, they get 10 dollars a day or they charge a 25 dollars yearly fee.So it might be cheaper if you plan on going to battle for 3 days to buy a yearly membership.
     
  14. specialist

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    Micro nats sounds interesting.
    Do we need Namba?
    Also how many ships are you guys expecting?
    What about those from other nearby states?
     
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    It is realllly too bad it isn't the weekend before that ... I could have made it. :(
     
  16. klibben

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    specialist,

    I'll ask to make sure - but I know you need insurance. I'm just not sure if it HAS to be Namba, however that is the insurance everyone in BBS uses.
     
  17. klibben

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    I talked to Buddy and it sounds like it needs to be Namba. I believe they sell single event insurance for something like $10 (thats the route I'm going for all of the battles I attend)... But I haven't been able to find the info on it yet... so if you find it let me know, if I find it I'll post here.