Des Moines

ok i now get why it is more expensive so thanks woah i have 114 posts sweet to think ive been a member for two weeks

 

when i looked up the des moines it said it weighed 15 pounds does that mean that i can only have 15 pounds of stuff in it?

 

are the bearings these cannons shoot the same size as bb gun bbs

 

The ship list for MWC actualy lists the Des Monies at 15.70 lbs scale, and 17.27 lbs max.
The max weight includes an allowed varation of 10% over scale weight.

So with it battle ready it must weigh less than or equal to 17.27 lbs.

Which for a cruiser is plenty.

 

The bbs fired by the cannons are nominal .177 (actualy varies with brand)
And they are indeed the same as fired by a bb gun.
However, many people use the beter grades, as the copper coated type have bad pits and spikes, that can cause gun jams.

 

thanks but what if i set up a des moines for big gun would that max weight change

 

and what ship do u have

 

The big gun group in Indina rules say that a ship must float on a water line as shown on plans.

As most plans are drawn at "standard" displacement- which only includes a minimal amount of supplies/fuel/ammo, the weight is probibly going to be very much lighter.

To figure it out, assuming that the plans are drawn at standard displacement, take the standard displacement (in tons) devide that by 1333, to give scale weight in pounds.

For example a Des Monies has a standard displacement of 19500 tons, so its scale weight would be:

19500/1333 = 14.63 lbs.

 

I have about 7 working ships at the moment. Plus a few more building

They are all in the "fast gun" format- so they all shoot bbs.

 

Are you sure about that displacement for Des Moines? I've always seen ~17,000 tons standard listed for her. 19,500 looks a little closer to full load displacement, but I could be mistaken.

Mike D

 

and exactly what type of ships are they

 

compared to a iowa how good is the north carolina taking away the captain

 

Not realy sure about that standard displacement- just did a quick lookup on a rather doubtfull web site.
If you have a real number use that insteed.

 

I have the three ships you see in my signature: HMS Invincible is a 4.0 unit WW1 British battlecruiser. HMS Courageous is also a 4.0 unit WW1 British battlecruiser. USS Salt Lake City is a 3.0 unit WW2 American Heavy Cruiser.

In comparison, the Des Moines is a cold war 3.5 unit American Heavy Cruiser.

Mike D

 

A North Carolina is about the same effectiveness as a Iowa.

In different ways of course.
A North Carolina is more of a stern gun boat.

In a dual between the two, it breaks about even- on average.

 

how come battlers connection doesnt sell the iowa has it been discontinued

 

what about nc vs yamato

 

Battlers connection never had Iowa. Swampworks used to make a hull for one.

If you can't find a fiberglass hull for the ship you want, it is possible to a hull yourself.
There are several methods you can use.
I use wood construction, reenforced with fiberglass.

 

NC and Yamato should be about equal also.

Never seen an even up battle with one however- that is both ships with equal captains.

Have seen one one better captains in either one, at various times.

It should also be noted that there are very few captains skilled enough to built/battle well the big class 7 boats.
Even those with years of experence will often find it beyond their skill.

A rookie with a class 7 is a good way to suck up alot of dammage. I think the dammage record is held by a rookie in a Yamato- 6005 points in one battle.

 

One thought to keep in mind. The bigger the boat, the more systems that have to be maintained. And more ways for something to go "wrong" just when you least expect it.