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Discussion in 'Buy, Sell and Trade' started by TRich19, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. specialist

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    Actualy given the level of relibilty typical for rookies, all the systems in a class 7 are unlikly to working at once.
     
  2. bb26

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    Even for experienced captains, there is something that seems to go on a boat just when you least expect it. A class 4/5 makes for a nice learning boat.
     
  3. crzyhawk

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    MWC question for you. Has anyone built an NC in the MWC with a fixed gun in say "A" turret and a rotate in B turret? My understanding of the rules is that it would be legal to do so, but I never saw one set up that way in the IRCWCC. The obvious disadvantage is that a captain who were to train the rotate into the same quadrant as "A" turret would be naked on the other side if he dumped all his BBs, but he might be able to spike his damage in a sidemount match if given the right situation. If not, he could leave the rotate in the opposite quadrant from the fixed "A" turret, and not worry about a naked side.

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  4. TRich19

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    anyway how do you become a better captain control wise do you just put your boat on the water and shoot at a target or what
     
  5. bb26

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    There are two parts to control. The first is that you have to know how your boat performs and handles. that means take it out and just sail it. No shooting. Just sailing. Then try sailing with other boats around. Before you can get the shooting down, you have to get the control down. otherwise you will be running into people and you will hear the words "RAM". Ramming is not permitted in IRCWCC (and I suspect every other format as well). Once you have gotten the feel for how well your boat handles then you can start learning combat tactics. Different guns on a boat have different effects. For example a stern gun in IRCWCC is more defensive. Your offensive weapons are your sidemounts. And to be able to use them effectively you need to know how to control your boat.
     
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    No one that I know of has messed with rotates in a NC.
    I suspect this is due to lack of relibilty of rotates, and complexity in installing them.

    I have noticed that rotates tend to stop working after they get knocked about.

    I suspect it is the KISS principle in operation.

    Also the aim of rotates is somewhat more varible, making it harder to hit.

    Rotates tend to be in ships that only one sidemount, due to maximizing stern guns, such as Scharnhorst and KGV.
     
  7. TRich19

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    is there a kit for the uss arizona
     
  8. TRich19

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    also how come subs arnt very affective they were a big part in both wars?
     
  9. crzyhawk

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    Yeah, I knew that the variability in aim would be an issue. I had a rotate in my Courageous for a while that worked pretty well. I went for a basic two position, left/right deal though, and didn't try to "aim" with it. I was just curious if someone had given it a try. Personally, I'm not interested in that large of ships, I can't see any reason I'd want to upgrade from my class 4's; I'm quite happy with them and don't feel like lugging a 40 pound class 6 ship around. At the treaty Ravenna battle when we were packing up, I was carrying my I-boat with the battery still in the hull over to the car with one hand, and Bob was carrying his Alabama (South Dakota class for those who don't know), and said "will you at least make it LOOK like that thing is heavy?". Yeah, can't say I am interested in the weight OR complexity of the big boys.

    As for the Arizona, Swampworks used to have a kit, but they are out of business now. You might be able to find a hull somewhere though, and build your own superstructure etc. If you are looking for a similar ship performance wise, there is the Maryland kit from Battler's. The Maryland hull can also be used to build a Tennessee class battleship or with some minor modifications, a New Mexico. class battleship.

    Subs aren't effective because they are too small in this scale. People have built subs that work, but once they add a gun they tend to get a wee bit unstable. There are a few big gun subs out there, but they have below the waterline guns (to the best of my knowledge) which lower the center of gravity, and thus improve stability. Subs aren't the only ships which were a major part of the wars which aren't overly viable. You can add carriers too. Carriers are horrible for the way we battle, if one were to run one as a warship.

    That's one thing that the 1/96 scale guys really have going for them in their endeavors...a 1/96 scale sub has a better chance of being workable then a 1/144 scale sub does.
     
  10. TRich19

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    what do u think was the best american battleship in the wars
     
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    lastly what was wrong with the sodak picture on pg 5
     
  12. crzyhawk

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    Historically or in RC combat?

    Since you asked, its a North Carolina class ship, not a South Dakota class ship.

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    in that case i want a nc
     
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    wow i must be retarded not to see this. :p I thought that a "sodak" was a forgien ship or somthiong. But its really just South and Dakota combined.
     
  16. TRich19

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    really and what nation did you think it was from
     
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    anyway what us battleship was the most famous in the ww2
     
  18. pew-pew-pew

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    Good Question ;) Beleive it or not North carolina Saw Numerouse battles in it's life time. Earned 15 ( or 16 ) battle-stars And Is Still Afloat To this Day :) And i have A Little fun Fact To add on Too... the NC was originaly going to have A naormal sized 14 inch guns. But later on Removed them and added 16 inch guns ( same As an Iowa! ) So I give This Ship plenty of Credit :)
     
  19. TRich19

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    yea ive been on the n.c. it is so cool but it gets extremely hot on deck and in the turrets there like huge ovens
     
  20. crzyhawk

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    USS Washington was a North Carolina class battleship that killed an IJN Battlecruiser, the Kirishima. North Carolina never fought any other capital ships in her career.

    Mike D