Graf Spee info

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  1. CURT

    CURT Well-Known Member

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    [:D]Does anyone have any idea what to set up a Graf Spee for Fast Gun speed should be? I am trying to decide on a drive system and battery system. I remember in the days of Swampworks I used to set up the ships with the 385s on direct drive. So what are you guys using these days?

    If you have pics of your interior setup could you post them here? I need to make a decision and any feedback will help.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Bryan

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    I like the Battlers Connection 05 motor combined with their 1-to-2
    gearbox, lower drain as their is one motor, but you still have 2
    counter-rotating shafts from a robust and strong and simple
    geardrive, you can change the drive pinion to change the speed and it
    changes the speed equally on the 2 output shafts.
     
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    I use BC's one motor/dual shaft gearbox. Like Bryan said, it's easy to maintain, easy to change gear ratios for both shafts with one gear, robust, and efficient. I've run three full sorties on a 10 amp hour battery pack with spare power left over.

    My ship is using 1.5" dia by 25 pitch, 4 bladed props. With the stock gearbox gears, it puts the ship right on 23 seconds. Acceleration is good and the prop shafts line up with the BC gearbox output shafts. Turning probably suffers a little compared to using higher rpm 1" or 1.25" props, but it's acceptable trade for acceleration IMO.
     
  4. CURT

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    So far it's 2 thumbs up for the One Motor/Dual shaft Gearbox. I like the fact that it is only 1 motor to maintain and from my Bismarck's experinece that is a huge factor.

    What pinion are you guys using on the gears?
     
  5. CURT

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    What about Pump size? With this set up what size pump are you guys using?
     
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    When my hardware kit was ordered i had specified geared drive so we will see what comes.
     
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    You can have up to a full size pump, if you use the gearbox and a 550.
    J
     
  8. CURT

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    Excellent PO that sounds great. Don't know if I WILL use a full size pump yet. i was thinking the smaller version. I used small pump in Bismarck for 6 years and it worked very well. Till a lutzow placed i's stern in the bow. It kept afloat but no pump could handle a hole that large..

    Tks PO
     
  9. mike5334

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    I used BC's large pump just because I had one and because MWC doesn't let a Lutzow have 3 cannons with a half unit pump. Of course, with a full unit pump and one of Dave's low friction outlets, it's hard to sink the ship. Heh.

    As for gearing, I don't remember what size pinion gear it was, but it's what came stock with the gearbox.
     
  10. CURT

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    Thanks Mike for that info.
     
  11. Bryan

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    We fight IRCWCC and I like the twin rear turret
    with a single front gun (gives you some options)
    and a really good half unit pump (Put a good
    high speed, low drain motor on the half unit pump)

    Makes for a ship that is easily overlooked and has a
    armament of something in a larger class, and you can still
    change batteries if needed.
     
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    That works too. THanks Bryan for your info.
     
  13. Bryan

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    Curt does your Graf Spee have the side bulges?
    Is is a old swamp-works one (straight sides) or
    one of Ralph's hulls (one of the bulged sides).

    I have one of Ralph's and I really love the lines
    on her, too bad it's actually my son's boat i am
    finishing up for him.[:p]
     
  14. BoomerBoy17

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    BC has a Graf Spee? are you kidding me, ive never seen it on their site.
     
  15. Bryan

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    woops [:0]

    Sorry I thought they did but I guess I was Wrong,
    (Yes I make mistakes, often if you talk to my wife)

    ok so which of the 2 do you have?

    [:D]
     
  16. BoomerBoy17

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    I was gonna say, id love a graf spee, if BC had one, i think that would seal the deal.
     
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    Nice, so I suppose you left the 1/8" braces where the curve
    meets the straight section between the appropriate ribs?

    You will really like her, she accelerates fast and is
    more stable in the turns with the width and bulges.

    Try to keep your prop shafts almost level as if they point
    down too far you can pull the rear end down, which can help
    if you have twin sterns and someone is right behind you, like
    a built in gun depress. but you probably know that already.
     
  19. CURT

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    Thanks. Whether I know the info or not it's always nice to have the info from someone else. I may have missed something or may not even be aware of something. I appreciate the feedback from Vets and Newbies.

    I am currently working on the CWC-X rules package on the computer now. I hope to have it ready for viewing before XMAS.

    I plan to have a Cruiser, battleship and battlecruiser under this format. Graf Spee I am really looking forward to outfitting it for CWC-X.
     
  20. Bryan

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    Well I do not know anything about the CWC-X rules, how are they
    different again? I know some of the Treaty rules, some ot the
    MWCC but mainly IRCWCC rules, (way to many there) what is the main
    difference with these new X rules?

    (I live a sheltered life in my winter igloo here)

    SJDY (St Jacobs Dock Yards are now open, ships laying up for winter)

    and Now I'm off to jell coat a Mogami.....