Heavy Cruiser Prinz Eugen

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  1. Knight4hire

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    By the way, even in the end, the Bismarck was still making headway at a steady seven knotts!

    The only way the Bismarck could have survived is if she had a rudder!
     
  2. Knight4hire

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    As I have said many times on this topic.
    The British had a FLEET of ships involved in this.
    Germany only one.
    If PE had been able to be on the sceen, then both ships would have been sent to the bottom.

    Hitler was afraid of having another Jutland, thus he could never be convinced that having the German fleet Vs. British Fleet encounter could have a German Victory.

    (Yet, in Numerous simulations that I have played As the German Commander. I have taken on the Tommy's and won!)
     
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    Bismark would have kicked ass at Jutland! ;)
     
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    When I really look at it, I'm amazed the British got off so light at Jutland. It could easily have been far worse if the HSF ever had a clear line of sight to fire accurately on the GF.
     
  5. NASAAN101

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    Thanks guys. Any way, i found her as an RC combat boat, Ive never done anythink this size, so hiow do i know im doing it right?
    NIkki
     
  6. Kotori87

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    Good question, Nikki. What have you got so far? Take a few pictures and post them here, and we can advise you on how you're doing, what's the next step, etc.
     
  7. NASAAN101

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    Hey Kotori87,
    I havent gotter her yet. But im getting her: I got on Battlers connection, they have almost every thing i need, but they dont have the deck kit, so i dont know were i can find it, or can i just get the stuff at a hobbie store? talk to you all later ok.. what come in thwe deck kit is this: Deck kits generally consist of pre-cut 1/8" lite ply main deck, pre-cut 1/4" deck rim, Main gun barbetts, deck panel screws, assembly instructions & depth gage. I dont know home much of this a can get at a hobby store..
    Nikki
     
  8. Gascan

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    Plenty of people scratch-build boats without fiberglass hulls or pre-cut deck kits. It should be possible for you to make your own, depending on what kind of tools you have and who you have to help you. You can get the materials at a hobby shop, at a lumber yard, or you can order them online from certain suppliers whose names I have forgotten (other people can provide links). You'll need some sort of power saw, such as a band saw or a scroll saw. If you do not have any of the saws, then you should find someone who lives nearby who does have the tools and can help you. The forum members can provide advice and we'll do our best to help you, but it takes time for us to log in, check messages, reply, then you have to check your messages. If you can, find somebody who lives nearby who can provide advice on the spot. If you can find someone who lives nearby who can provide both tools and advice, it would be even better.
     
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  10. NASAAN101

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    Ya, but i like the one from Battlers connection..
    Nikki
     
  11. Knight4hire

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    The Battle of Juttland proves that a heard of lambs lead by a lion will defeat a heard of lions lead by a lamb.
    The Germans had the better ships, but did not use them to thier advantage.
     
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    Guys,
    you all lost me on this? I know about the simulater, but how dose it tie in to PG?
    Nikki
     
  13. Gascan

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    It's an unintentional attempt to hijack the thread. I'll start a new thread about the Battle of Jutland so you can focus on your PE model.
     
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    Guys,
    Part of the reason im so fond of PG the way i am, is she was a little fighter, and you saw it with her.. Battlers connections, from talking to a lot of people is one of the best for RC combat.. What so you guys think?
    Nikki
     
  15. eljefe

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    Depends on what you mean by "one of the best for RC combat." In big gun, cruisers can be deadly. In fast gun, they're not much more than an annoyance.
     
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    El Jefe,
    What do you mean by This: In big gun, cruisers can be deadly. In fast gun, they're not much more than an annoyance? what i ment was the best beginner..
    Nikki
     
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    What I mean is that in Big Gun style combat, cruisers armed with "torpedoes" have chased every other kind of ship off the water, from what I hear. In fast gun style combat (IRCWCC, MWC), cruisers have too few guns and too few options for placing them to have much effect on the outcome of battle. Most serious battling is done by larger ships like battleships and battlecruisers.

    As for a good ship for a beginner, the PE is probably better than most cruisers since it has more space to fit everything into.

    I've found most beginners have an easier time with a World War I battlecruiser though. Examples include the Invincible, Lion, Von der Tann, or Moltke.
     
  18. Kotori87

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    Not quite... torpedo cruisers haven't chased other ships off the water. Cruisers' primary strength is their numbers: a group of two or three cruisers can swarm individual larger ships under, while spreading the return fire amongst themselves. It's a powerful combination, but only works if you've got the numbers, and if the other team has torpedo-cruisers as well, both sides start racking up casualties fast. That said, Prinz Eugen isn't a very effective torpedo-cruiser in Big Gun. It's no faster than the battleships, so it can't chase or flee from them, and it is less agile than many other cruisers and destroyers. For Big Gun, the Prinz Eugen is better built as a gun-cruiser.

    For Fast Gun, I do not know, because I have no experience in it. I strongly suspect that the same elements that made cruisers powerful in packs still apply, but I don't know for sure.
     
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    what did you guys think about this: But one of the think that made me fell in love with her at the begin with was the fact that she was a "lucky ship", and she always will be.. she was a little fight like me.. she was on the small size so am i , im only 5" 2' tall, so why is everyone alway underestimating her, as well as me.. She could still bite you, if you let her.. What do you guys think?
    Nikki
     
  20. Gascan

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    The luck of a historical ship has almost nothing to do with the luck of a model ship. Still, choosing a ship because it has an interesting history is perfectly legitimate. Kotori and I built Viribus Unitis class ships for a number of reasons. We had already seen how to successfully use a ship with similar armament, we already had some cannons for the bow, and knew about the fascinating history of that class (first battleship filmed sinking, first dreadnought sunk by a torpedo boat, second class with triple turrets, sunk by frogmen at war's end). If you really want to build something, we can't really stop you. Prinz Eugen may not be the Best ship for a beginner, but it's certainly not the worst. Still, do you know how you want to sail and fight her? Do you know how to build her? What about a WW1 battle cruiser like El Jefe suggested?
     
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