Help Bismarck warship build

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  1. CURT

    CURT Well-Known Member

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    I would run the batteries length wise and close to the center of the hull or to the bottle as much as possible. Battery weight in this ship should be near the center of the hull. With the 20z bottle you may get away with it but it's a wider bottle and heavier bottle with full case reg weighs as much as one of those batteries.. You want to make sure the model will float evenly .Your forward battery can move even closer to the centerline of the model . Make sure your metal tabs are facing away from the bottle.
    Try float testing it with the different setups till your satisfied that it is floating evenly. Use a carpenter's bubble level and place it across the fore deck , the stern sideways and lengthways to check the trim and ballast.

    Escs that are waterproof don't need to be in a box. Should be out of the box at least that one so that it doesn't melt the box . They do get hot and need space to vent the heat.

    Have you installed the cannon in the barbette than tried putting the turret on it?
     
  2. gunsnrosesx

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    Thank you all for pointing that out to me
    Nikki: its a 9oz

    Curt: i tested the the weight distribution, and it looks like i need to actually move (probably the batteries) forward and more in the center of the ship. it looked to be off very slightly in the bow cuasing it to rais maybe an 1/8 or tad more of an inch. and for the port and starboard sides, the starboard side wasnt down all the way about by like a 1/8 inch or a tad more.

    Again thank you all for helping me, doing a little more work to it and i should be done then.
     
  3. NASAAN101

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    Dave,
    She has working cannons doesn't she??? cause if she dose, get the side cut out and get her combat ready, that way you have a working boat til, Little Lutzow is up and ready!
    Nikki
     
  4. gunsnrosesx

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    haha working canons yes and wow it is very cool had a few friends over to show them they are really getting into it, and they would love to join me in this hobby but when they start seeing prices they run for the hill.
    As for cutting her sides out, no way im not doing that sorry to disapoint anyone this is just a show boat with working cannons to shoot up my other creations that i really dont care about.

    now the Lutzow will be decked out with warship material now that i am not getting my feet wet but being soaked from head to toes from the bismarck (thats no joke i litterally had to swim out in the pond in the middle of winter to get my ship back. it was smoking) i will know have a better understanding of wat to do. the only thing left to do is pick the perfect rule set
     
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    wow!!! is she ok from that???
    Nikki
     
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    thats when i had to replace the motors and yes everything was fine sub deck was blackend though and it was smoking and smelled very bad for about 2 weeks
     
  7. irnuke

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    Layout suggestion:
    Many (possibly most) combat ships are set up with the bottle in the extreme bow, centerline. That way, as the bottle is emptied, it doesn't change your port/starboard trim. Remember to position it with the valve higher than the bottle end, or it will freeze the lines. Batteries are on the centerline, and usually in the midships area (widest point of hull). Radio box is often forward of the batteries and aft of the bottle. From the batteries aft, it's Pump, drive motors, gearbox(es) rudder(s)
    With Bismarck, you have huge amounts of room, so it should be easy to fit everything in and arrange it so your trim is right where you want it.
     
  8. CURT

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    Actually Bismarck doesn't have a lot of hull room. The hull depth is not as deep as most of the ships out there. Because of the clipper shaped hull it loses interior volume very quickly in the ends of the hull. If the hull had that 1/2 more depth you could just get a 7 oz just under the A Turret or further back in the bow without waterchanneling.
     
  9. gunsnrosesx

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    haha thank you guys, yes i was actually surprised how i thought i had alot of room went to kaput as soon as i put my radio box, co2, and batteries in and not to mention it isnt a very high hull so i cant fit other things in there. as for finding the perfect level im doing that today. thank you for all of your help.
     
  10. irnuke

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    Ah, but Stok... it's all a matter of perspective. The Largest ship I've built is a Baden. Compared to that, Bis has nearly half again the length, more beam, AND more depth of hull.
     
  11. SnipeHunter

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    So true, I think my Bismarck has a TON of space. At least compared to a VDT and a Brooklyn... Also it depends on what sort of equipment you're using, not needing to have a watertight box saves a significant chuck of space. A 7oz co2 tank easily fits in the bow under A&B turrets.
     
  12. rarena

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    It's not too bad for room. I fit a 20oz bottle in mine once I took the Baden out...
    opened up a whole lot of space.
     
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    "Took the Baden out"? To where? Dinner? Or are you saying you had more room in your Bismarck once you removed a dreadnought from inside it? Or just more room in your workshop once you released Baden into the wilds?
    Confused minds want to know.....
     
  14. gunsnrosesx

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    Haha, anyway my hoses came in so now my stern gun will be complete after tweaking, other than that i think i found the leak and the ship runs amazing again thank you for all your help.
     
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    Dave,
    Thats great! Get some photos of her!!!!
    Nikki
     
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    Sadly my good camera is dead and will be dead till first day of fishing, which is when i go home to see my family there is were i left my charger, picked up the wrong one when going back to college.
     
  17. rarena

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    Just meant it's a big roomy boat. I wish I had a Baden to keep inside it as a lifeboat though, that would be cool.
     
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    big n roomy yea but still it feels like u loose 90% of your room once u start putting everything in. when i get my smaller ship idk what i will do haha
     
  19. CURT

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    Your right SnipeHunter. I had to check my photos and I found pics of Bismarck and Tirpitz that was outfitted for Can-Nats 10. We did install the 7 0z and I believe a 9 oz in the bow. But we had to use straight mag for A turret and have it's upfeed cut down someand angle the upfeed to get clearance from underneath the A barbette. If your using stock coils your not going to get the clearance down the middle unless you off angle the bottle to the side. We tried several interior setups. Both ships were using different size motors and we freed up space back aft by shortening the drive shaft but we were using a smaller motor too with a smaller motor mount. We did get the batteries to lay across the beam and I think one ship used 2 SLAs and the other used 3 slas. These models had wider beams than my swampy Bismarck their midships freeboard was lower than my Swampy Bismarck's.
     
  20. SnipeHunter

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    Ahh, coil mags. Those do take up a lot of space, not sure what the benefit from them is either unless you need them for a rotate system. Custom guns are always going to fit better than trying to get something "stock" to fit, plus IF you have the right tools they are an easy build.

    What motor and prop combo are you guys running? Geared or Direct drive?