HMS Tiger

Discussion in 'Ship Comparison' started by lalimerulez, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. lalimerulez

    lalimerulez Member

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    Hello everyone,

    What do you guy think about the HMS Tiger(tiger class)? How would it be for a biggner ship? are there any model pics of it? How fast does it turn?
     
  2. Gettysburg114th

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    Nice ship. I'm building Tiger's close sister. I'm laying up the Kirishima for Treaty Combat. She will do well there. Faster than many of the enemy and should turn pretty well.
    Bobo
     
  3. Anachronus

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    Absolutely the best looking of the battlecruisers. Those three big round funnels...
     
  4. SnipeHunter

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    The Tigers at this years MWC Nats seemed to hold their own pretty well, and they are good looking boats, for brits. But yeah they seem to be decent, now for a beginner ship I dont know how good they are, probably depends on the rule set you play by.
     
  5. lalimerulez

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    Im doing fast gun wiht the OAF.
     
  6. JustinScott

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    I think a Tiger would suite you well in the OAF. Quick, twin rudder, 4.5 units, 4 props.. should do nicely.
     
  7. Gettysburg114th

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    Hey lal,
    I thought you had an Iboat? There is nothing wrong with an Iboat at all. Veteran or rookie. Nice little boat. I have a New Zealand here and keep on looking and looking at it.
    Bobo
     
  8. lalimerulez

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    Im working on a Iboat very slowly. I just wanted to know what people thought of the ship. I never heard of it but happened to come arcross it when looking around.
     
  9. Anachronus

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    I have always wondered about its relative scarcity as well.
     
  10. Tugboat

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    Tiger doesn't have to be scarce. BC's Lion hull is so close in dimensions to a Tiger hull that you could use it as-is.

    Then all we'd need is a Bear hull, oh MY!
     
  11. Anachronus

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    Tiger has about 2 feet more beam and is only 4 feet longer....that would get lost in the noise.



     
  12. specialist

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    Lion hull is not really a good match for a Tiger hull. It won't hold as much weight, and the stern is different too.
    You could use a Lion hull for a Tiger, but it will carry about 5 lbs less than a scale tiger.

    In any case the Lions/Tigers that have been build have been poor turning boats.

    I-boat is a beter boat.
     
  13. Anachronus

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    The different sterns was the main question I had.
     
  14. Bob Pottle

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    Having just checked the plans of Tiger and Lion/Queen Mary in Burt's 'British Battleships of WWI' I can confirm that the hulls are very different, at least above the waterline.

    Unlike the Lion Class, Tiger had very long embrasures forward for the first pair of secondary armament casemate guns, plus 4 more pairs of very prominent casemates further aft.

    There's no way a Lion hull could be used unless most of the top edge was cut off and new embrasures and casemates molded on - a very difficult proposition.

    Bob Pottle
     
  15. Buddy

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    Hey guys I think the Tigers are very good boats. Joe Maxwell built one a couple of years ago and He has pretty much held his own against the big ships.
     
  16. specialist

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    All the Tiger/Lion class BCs that I have seen (about 7 ships) have all suffered from a lack of manuverabilty.
    When compared to ships of similar length, they come off second best in turning.

    The big battlecruisers Derflinger, Kongo, and even Dunkirk manuver beter.

    Against actual good boats, such as NC and Nagato, the best that a Tiger/Lion could hope for was to stay out of trouble.
    If attacked by squardon of ships, Tiger/Lion require help to save their bacon.

    I think they should be considered marginal, as they are not as bad as some others.
    But to suggest that they are "very good" I belive to be incorrect.
     
  17. Anachronus

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    That misses the point, or at least part of the point. Who wants to see a pond with only one type of ship, just because it has the "best" combat abilities. This is a hobby. It is meant to be fun. Aesthetic qualities should be factored in. Other wise it is too much like work.

    j.
     
  18. specialist

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    I just belive that people should know what they are getting before they start.

    Looking cool is what a Tiger does very well. Sinking axis is not.

    Evulation of combat abilties does not realy result in a single "best" ship.
    The result tends to be several "really good" ships, a bunch more "good" a few "marginal" and a small number of "rather bad" types.

    For instance "realy good" ships:
    NC, Nagato, Bismark, Iowa, Yamato, SC, QE, Baden and others.

    "good"
    I-boat, VDT, Scharnhorst, Derf, Kongo, Tennessee, and others.

    "Marginal"
    Tiger, Lion, Michigan, Nevada, Dreadnaught and others.

    "Rather bad"
    Alaska, Hoood, Renown, and Fisher's follies.
     
  19. Anachronus

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    Indeed and to the point.

    Still, my money is on a well captained Tiger vs a novice in a NC.

    In the end the human factor will be telling. For captains of equal skill then the ship makes the difference.

    For one, I like to root for the underdogs.



     
  20. bb26

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    Not all captains will ever have the same skill. Some will be aggressive no matter what ship they run.