idea for land participation in battles

Discussion in 'Scenarios / Gameplay' started by zbond007, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. Tugboat

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    My thoughts on shore batteries are: MEH.

    Loaner boats are the way to go. A shore battery isn't a taste of battle any more than eating one of your fries is a taste of the boneless hot wings that they came with.
     
  2. battleshipnewjersey312

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    I think shore batteries are an okay idea but their armor would not be penetrable without everyone firing at it. I vote loaner boats.
     
  3. totaldestruction

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    I dont mind them. they could be fun for campaigns. Its all up to the user.
     
  4. battleshipnewjersey312

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    great point but you relly cant kill em can you?
     
  5. Kotori87

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    Yes, you can kill them. I've sunk one myself. They're just very hard to kill, just like they were historically.
     
  6. battleshipnewjersey312

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    yay for reviving dead threads....
    but anyway how does one sink a shore battery? aren't they by definition on shore? i mean I guess you could have used your pump stream to make the ground really muddy and let it sink in but I doubt that's what you did.
    Are we going to have to start calling you Kotori "Sinker of Land Based Objects" ? aka SLBO
     
  8. battleshipnewjersey312

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    awesome but that was what i was tinking how do u?
     
  9. Gascan

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    Hehe... that would be funny... Actually, if you look at some photos of shore batteries in the WWCC, you'll see that they are just a box floating just off shore that represents guns on shore. Some are penetrable, just like regular ships, others are impenetrable but have a 1in target that cuts off power. So yes, you can actually sink them, they just aren't easy to sink.
     
  10. SnipeHunter

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    So do they actually sink or do they just lose power? Do they have a pump?
     
  11. battleshipnewjersey312

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    like he said either way. pump i think so.
     
  12. Rob Wood

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    Gascan and Katori are members of my club, and are a bit preoccupied at the moment, so I'll answer.
    In our club (Western Warship Combat Club - a Big Gun club), a shore battery can only be installed to protect a dock, which is located just outside the port of the Axis or Allied fleet. On the dock are vehicles and buildings that ships - usually battleships or cruisers with rotating guns - can shoot off for points. If there is no dock, there can be no shore battery to defend it.
    By our latest rules, a shore battery must be a floating shore battery, one foot by one foot, with penetrable sides. It can sink, just like a ship, but it has the thickest balsa armor of any sinkable "vessel" in our club to give it a fighting chance at survival. It can have a pump, just like a ship. In essence, it's an anchored, square hull with a twin or triple-barreled rotating gun, such as the Gneisenau triple-barrel turret used by the Germans as a shore battery in Norway in WWII.
    A shore battery is not necessarily that much fun to operate, since it can't maneuver, it's small, and since it's sinkable, it's vulnerable. And if no one attacks the dock targets or the shore battery, there's nothing for the gunner to shoot at, so it can get boring. We don't see them used very often - usually only at special events - because someone has to bring a dock and vehicles to go with them, and they are of very limited value . The only reason we ever see them at the pond is that they add - along with a dock and targets to shoot at - a bit of spice to our games.
    Rob
     
  13. battleshipnewjersey312

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    i saw a floating one in a youtube video. it looked pretty cool. you guys ROCK ON!
     
  14. crzyhawk

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    ^^ This, part of the excitement of this hobby is seeing boats sink, and trying to not get sunk yourself. Shore batteries imo would detract from the fun, not add to it. Just build a loaner boat to get new people out there, and everyone will have more fun.
     
  15. battleshipnewjersey312

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    you are so right! I have to admit I used to think they would add a whole lot to the thrill of battle but it proves to be wrong.
     
  16. Flakman08

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    Should put some batteries on an island out in the water. They use islands for various scenarios. It would be nice if it was the target to capture or destroy, but its armed. That would make it difficult for ships to get close enough to capture/destroy it.
     
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