Nagato build

specialist · Jul 11, 2008

Both the Garski & Dulin and the Friedman books list 46796 tons as the "emergency" load for the NC. If you read the text, this is including the extra fuel tanks. These were normaly used in long range Pacfic war sailing.

If you read the rules, you will find that ships are allowed 10% over scale weight, to allow for building errors. So for a NC this would be

46796/1333 *1.1 = 38.61 lbs.

Which is what the ship list has listed.

BTW, for some reason IRCWCC ship list does not include the extra 10% even though it is legal to use. Also they did not update their ship list when new information became avaible.

If you look around, you can indeed find photos of the ships leaving port at rather low freeboard levels. They are not common, as they did not encorage people to photograph ships leaving port in war time.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]quote:Originally posted by djranier

Really well thats good to know, I was wondering where those numbers came from. Thanks for the info.

But it still does not explain why the NC, SD models sit so low in the water, when in real life they did not. Or the big difference between the IRC list and the MWC for just these few ships.

I have been researching the full load on these ships, and so far everything I have found is right in the 44,000 tons area, which using your formula of x/1333 matches the IRC weight of 33 pounds. I wonder what source was used to get the 47,000+ weight, I will have to post on the MWC and ask.

I looked on the MWC site, and the main reference source seem to be U.S. Battleships: An Illustrated Design History, Naval Institute Press, 1984.

I found a copy for $22 on e-bay and purchased it. By looking at another site which references the same book, it lists the NC at 44,377 which puts it back at the 33 pound weight, which is about what all the sources list it at. I should have the book after Nats and will see for myself.[/FONT]
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ProfessorChaos · Jul 11, 2008

MWC added the column for max+10% to ease weight verification at lakeside. Also, MWC has a dedicated shiplist committee.

Gettysburg114th · Jul 11, 2008

I have to say from what I hear and what has been shared with me the committee is doing a great job with the ship list.

Lou · Aug 11, 2008

Hey Dave,

Any update?

djranier · Aug 12, 2008

Nope I have not been working on her, started a new project. Marc wanted to do the Nagato's, but now that he's gone, he left it behind for me.

But I decided to try somthing different, so she will wait till next year as a guess. And I still need to get my Roma back together, also, damm I like that ship.

Lets see, refit the Roma, PE, Kumano, and finish the ID, Konig, Atlanta, and a pre-dred, I got too much on my plate. I think I just need to cut it down to 2 or 3 ships.

CURT · Aug 13, 2008

Boy I know what you mean there..Bismarck -refit, Yamato-upgrade-Warspite-Refit-Tirpitz-pending construction-Califorina-pending construction-Prince of Wales-pending constrcution-Graf Spee-pending Construction and when the 2nd hull of the Virubius Unitis arrives..that will be pending Construction too.

I need a coffee...

djranier · Aug 13, 2008

LOL, I still trying to catch up to you.

CURT · Aug 15, 2008

YOu got to hurry then. PE is being prepped for shipping to Nova Scotia Monday. Warspite as we speak or type is being sheeted. Internals already installed just need to hook up.

djranier · Aug 15, 2008

It will take me awhile to catchup to you Curt. But I'am working on a Mississippi for Tim, and got the turrets on order for my Atlanta to get her finished up.

I'm working on a scratch built hull for a Iron Duke, got the keel, ribs together, with the deck attached, will be filling the rib spaces in between over the weekend with balsa, She is looking pretty good. Then will glass it over like Mike did on his Frenchy carrier.

Looks like the easiest way to do it. I got a crap load of block balsa for $60 from BalsaUSA, so I think I have enough to make 3 or 4 if I don't waste it.