SMS Derfflinger 3D Printed Project

Discussion in 'Warship Builds' started by darkapollo, Aug 13, 2021.

  1. darkapollo

    darkapollo Well-Known Member

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    Oh the pulleys are literally just there to keep the rudder posts in place. I was thinking of using them but then I need to order new belts and design a tensioner system and it was just a pain.

    I designed servo and rudder post arms as well as “heim” joints for 3/16 rods so bending and binding arent an issue. I set it all up in Fusion so I could get a good estimate on range of motion on the rudders.

    Right now the deck is printing. After that is done I will print the arms and joints.

    I’m not sure she will be in fighting shape for October but she should be on the water.
    If sea trials goes well, I am contemplating uploading all of the files for anyone to print the nearly complete ship.
     
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  2. Evan Fowler

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    That's awsome+!!! Can't wait to see it on the water
     
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    I'm sure that if you upload them, they will be greatly appreciated.

    I was just thinking about how I would do a rudder system in that ship, and I keep coming back to the setup that was in my Baden that I rather liked, which was a servo linked to a gear running the twin rudder gears.

    But since you're only running a single rudder, a simple arm should be plenty. I would just suggest putting a 'pin' in place so that it can't toggle to the 'wrong' side, kind of like my old Sheffield.

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    Bah, you can't really see it there, but there's a vertical piece of nylon tubing ahead of the rudder arm so that it can't rotate around to the wrong side. I hope that made sense. And yes, she's an olde bote. I should probably post some pictures of her elsewhere...
     
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  4. darkapollo

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    Yeah… single rudder… ;) right now she has both rudders installed. The front only has about 60* of total swing before hitting the prop shafts. The rear has about 120* total swing. I know, its not a full 180* like some ships.
    The beauty of it being all modeled is that I can mock things up, print, test, and tweak or change everything at a few hours print time. So the rudders and motion are not set in stone.

    I thought about gears too, but didnt model in any posts for support. Though I could probably cludge something together…
     
  5. darkapollo

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    Whoops. I accidentally made a canoe.
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    That is a beautiful canoe indeed, if only I could fit in it.
     
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  7. Commodore

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    Yer gonna need a bigger printer :p
     
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  8. darkapollo

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    We have steering!
    Geared so 45* servo throw is 75* rudder motion.
    She wont spin in circles, but hopefully this helps. I DO have an idler and B.A.G. For the front rudder to limit that to 30*. Playing with the idea of ‘drift’ steering. Making the front rudder turn opposite the rear rudder to kind of make an arc.. at this point I’m just playing. So good-bad-ugly idea, doesnt really matter. She wont be combat ready by Hagerstown anyway.
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  9. darkapollo

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    Rudder works!!

    tomorrow I start the final big print. The superstructure!
     
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  10. Evan Fowler

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    Nice job
     
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  11. BigGunJeff

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    Really great work.

    Impressive!
     
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    As always great work
     
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  13. darkapollo

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    Progress update!
    Motor gears arrive tomorrow! Ordering fiberglass and resin on friday. Skinning on friday.
    It should be water proof enough to float this weekend!
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  14. Evan Fowler

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    Sweet!!! Can't wait to see
     
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    fantastic work.

    I now hunger for these shapefiles.
     
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    Once I have everything printed and working, I was going to see if any one wanted a “Print-a-ship”
    Ive been thinking of doing beginner/novice ships to hopefully help the community grow. As 3D printers are becoming cheaper, I can see the draw of being able to print a boat as an entry point.
    I know that is why I bought my first printer 7 years ago. I spent a long time working on my New Jersey. I tried to build a wood hull, I bought a fiberglass hull, and eventually bought a printer and tried printing it.
    I think it would be awesome if others also joined in with designing rookie ships for people coming in. I would love if we could get a handful of good starter boats designed for printing.
     
  17. Panzer

    Panzer Iron Dog Shipwerks and CiderHaus

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    Wonderful work on one of my favorite Boats, Just Thank you.
     
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    So.. guess I am printing motor mounts now. The TRAXXAS ones I have do not give me enough adjustability to mesh the gears. Probably because I went with 48p and not 32p since those were the only ones I could get with a decent gear ratio and before next month. Minor setbacks....
     
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    right on, dude!

    yeah if that Armored Cruiser rule passes this fall, I think there'd be a lot of interest in ACRs for beginner hulls. I think Will T. is looking at doing Minotaur for printing, but Tennessee, Blucher, and that japanese ACR would be great too
     
  20. darkapollo

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    I’m not a card carrying member (yet…) so I’m not privy to rule changes.