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  1. Tugboat

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    As high as you can get :) If you can fit a 1.5" prop on there, do so, that's a single-prop (well, driven prop) ship and it'll respond well to that.
     
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    I'll measure and see if I can fit a bigger prop today. SO, you think my improvised stuffing tube should work? Also, aren't stuffing tubes supposed to be filled with grease?

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    Almost anything tube-like will work as a stuffing tube. Some of my ships have nice ones from BC or Rob Stalnaker, and some juse have the 5/32" brass tubing that just fits over a 1/8" shaft. All of them held out water and let the shaft do its job :)

    Definitely grease the stuffing tube. No question about it.
     
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    Will epoxy work to hold everything together?

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    Waterproof epoxy will.
     
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    It might not hold those bushings unless you enclosed the bushings with the epoxy. I have found that things dont care to adhere to oil impregnated things. YMMV
     
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    Well, I guess I'll have to experiment and find out. Also, when the stuffing tube is full of grease, it should turn a little harder, right?

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    Usually a little. I am of the opinion that it is possible to pack too much grease in.

    A note on those bronze bushings - every time I've had them, out of the box they've been a bit snug on the propshaft and I've found that running a needle file through them to open them up a touch is a big help on reducing motor loading. Again, this may not be the case for you.
     
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    When my bushings came, they fit very nicely on the prop shaft. They weren't too small, and the weren't too big. Maybe I have too much grease in my ST, because it just seems that it turns so hard that it would overheat the motor.

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  10. DarrenScott

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    Grease?
    I never use grease....just a light oil, I find grease is far too temperature sensitive.
    Sail on cold water and the grease will thicken, causing all sorts of problems.
     
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    You're using the wrong grease then. I use proboat marine grease. It sticks to the shaft(which is what you want, and something oil won't do). It also won't liquify when it gets warm. I don't sail in water i won't swim temp wise, so if you run in arctic waters you will need the appropriate grease
     
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    I generally use white lithium grease. It seems to do well in keeping water leak-by at bay. I can still spin the props by hand and they will freewheel a full rotation or two if not hooked up to anything.
     
  13. Beaver

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    Two great suggestions, I'll have to experiment, and see which one works best. Now that I'm getting close to being able to hook up my motor, I was wondering how to hook up the gears to the shaft?

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    not sure i understand your question? usually most of the gears we use have a set screw. You just flatten a spot on the shaft and crank the sets crew down on it. I usually throw some loctite on mine too.
     
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    Ok, I didn't know they had set screws. I bought some white lithium grease yesterday, and got all the old grease out of the ST. So maybe today I can get the whole thing back together.

    Will keep you posted,
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    Worked on internal layout today.

    The Duck-Tape is to represent the guns.
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    The motor in the water channel is the pump motor without the pump.
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    And last of all the grease is to represent the Co2 bottle.
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  17. Beaver

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    Well, I've decided to go with the white lithium grease for the stuffing tubes, and am quite pleased with the results. Now that I have my stuffing tube built and ready to be installed, what should I do next? I was thinking about working on the prop, and am wondering what is best, a three bladed prop, or a four bladed prop?

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    I like 4 bladed props.

    What is that servo right behind your pseudo-bottle standing in for?
     
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    I'm thinking that I'll start with a four bladed prop. I can always make another one later.
    That is the servo, that runs the poppet valves, that fire the guns. I'm not exactly sure where that should go, so I just stuck it there for the picture. :)

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  20. Beaver

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    Ok, so nothing has happened to Suffren since my last post, and I am wondering what to do next. I was thinking that I need to build a gear box. I know that I could buy one, but like I've said before, I'd rather build than buy. Now about gear boxes, how are they supposed to operate? I mean, how are they supposed to work? Some photos of your gear boxes would help to. :)

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