Suffren Build

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  1. Tanaaris

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    You just found me a way to bypass wifey control!
    Thank you for this nice idea.
    Please tell us if there is any ill effect from restricting the air flow like you did. Otherwise that just may be the right way of building in-house
     
  2. Beaver

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    You're welcome. :)
    I checked everything just a minute ago and it seems to be fine. Nothing was not as it should be. I don't think you'll have to worry about restricting airflow. As long as you keep the bag inflated there should be enough air for the glue to cure.

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  3. absolutek

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    Heh, thats why some of us use West System, no smell.
     
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    West Systems is definitely worth the price to keep the stench out and the wife happy.
     
  5. Beaver

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    I've been thinking about getting something other than the auto stuff as I'm just about out of it. Has anybody ever used Raka epoxy before?
    Particularly this stuff, http://store.raka.com/uvepoxysystem.aspx
     
  6. Hovey

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    I haven't used that brand (have used US Composites and West System) but any true epoxy (not polyester or vinylester) will have the low odor and excellent mechanical properties everyone attributes to West System. For our purposes any true epoxy resin is much like another. You probably don't need the UV inhibitor though, it slightly weakens the resin and since you are probably going to paint your boat any way its kind of redundant.
     
  7. Beaver

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    What did you think of the US Composites? And what hardener did you use?

    Thanks,
     
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    Works great, no complaints, they answered my questions and my sail boat seemed to be repaired just fine. I sold it so I cant say for sure anymore but its probably still afloat somewhere. I used their medium and their slow hardeners for several projects and both worked fine. In general faster hardeners produce weaker cured resin but for what we are doing I don't think a few percent matters. I was looking for open work time but their faster hardener would probably work better for your needs.
     
  9. Beaver

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    I might get a gallon of that in the near future. I'm thinking that the medium hardener would actually be my best choice. The auto body epoxy that I've been using has a pot life of about 15 minutes, and I always seem to try and use every bit of it before is starts to glob up. Naturally, I made mistakes in a lot of my work that I did with that stuff due to hurrying. So I'm hoping to get something with a longer pot life and less stink. :)
    And how well do the pumps work?
     
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    Uh, they work like pumps? Pumps make dispensing epoxy easy and given the price is fairly cheap I consider them a no brainer.
    EDIT: Pumps make it easier because you dont have to measure and its much easier to get your resin/hardener from the container. For West System its one of resin and one of hardener, for US composites its 2-4 pumps resin and one pump hardener depending on the speed.
     
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    Ok, thanks, Hovey! I believe I'm going to get some of that here soon.
     
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    Rudders are now sanded to shape and waterproofed with varnish. Now I need to get my prop so I can install the rudders.
     
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    Well Old Man Winter sure is dumping the snow around here. Have about a foot so far and it's still snowing. :)
    Anyway, Suffren needs work done on her, and I'm just wondering what I should do. I guess I need to fill in the ribs. Any suggestions on what to use. I hear the SL concrete sealer is too heavy, and I don't want to use foam. Any ideas?
     
  14. U.S.S. Arazona

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    You could try using 1/32 balsa.
     
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    How, plate it over the ribs? :)
     
  16. Beaver

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    Does anybody know of something that I can get at a local store that I can mix up and pour into the gaps in my ship? Has to be light, and flow nice. Color doesn't matter.(unless it's hot pink) :) I'm getting desperate. :crying:
     
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    How come you don't want to use foam?
     
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    Lack of... complicated (IMO). :) I was looking at what Lowes has to offer, and I found two products that I think might work. (if they're not too heavy)
    http://www.lowes.com/pd_55111-12-LNP-903_0__?productId=1092613&Ntt=glue&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dglue&facetInfo=
    http://www.lowes.com/pd_153963-69-1447063_0__?productId=3307446&Ntt=glue&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dglue&facetInfo=
     
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    You could do balsa strips running the length of the hull, then glass over that. It'd look nice, but it takes time.
     
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    Liquid nail is way too thick to be effective. Its like trying to spread peanut butter.