Trivia II

Discussion in 'Full Scale' started by Tugboat, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. Anachronus

    Anachronus Well-Known Member

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    An odd beast, I had never heard of that one. Still if you could get copies of the HSF archives drawings that should be official enough for anyone.
     
  2. Kotori87

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    http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h237/kotori87/tauchschiff_projekt_50_100dpi.jpg

    High-resolution plans are available from the Dreadnought Project.

    I'll need a bit to think of a trivia question, expect one out tonight.
     
  3. Anachronus

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    Ah! A German K-Boat. Probably would have worked out about as well.
     
  4. Tugboat

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    Actually, the arrangement of the tubes on that German boot looks a lot like the much-later american nuke boats, which had their tubes angled out to the side to clear the sonar dome...
     
  5. Anachronus

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    Angled broadside tubes go back to WW1 in the Royal Navy too.
     
  6. Kotori87

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    Yeah, but did you see the rotating, reloading, underwater twin torpedo mount? That's something special.

    OK, time for trivia question. This peculiar form of camouflage was sometimes applied to huge troopships to convince would-be attackers that they were better-protected than they really were. I'll give this one to whoever finds the best image or diagram demonstrating this camouflage.
     
  7. JKN

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    Would it be Dazzle?

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    So which one is the sub attacking?
    they look simalar dont they.
    even big battleships wore the same design
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    Reason, the optics on submarines had to align two pictures to get a good view and sizing of the ship, the dazzle mad it harder to align the two images making it hard to tell the size of it and what it was, Are you looking at a 300ft convoy or a batttleship? is the question that went through their minds when they saw the blury out of image picture in the optics.
     
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    Nope. those are uniquely German. The word describing them is combines all those terms in one big noun! :D
     
  9. Gascan

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    Dazzle is not what Kotori is looking for. Dazzle paint did indeed make it much harder to identify the size, range, heading, and even class of ship. This was true both for surface vessels and submarines. However, dazzle paint did not make it look like the vessel so painted was better protected than it really was.
     
  10. JKN

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    So its not dazzle:( dang now to try again
     
  11. JKN

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    Could it be Measure 6?
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    Or measure 7?
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  12. Kotori87

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    Close, but not quite. This one was for giant troopships, not warships.
     
  13. bikefish

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    I dont know the full name for it, but it was the practice of painting the hull outlines of other smaller ships onto the side of a larger ones. I know the Richelieu wore this at some point in the war.
     
  14. JKN

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    Bild-5
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    Sorry for the other drawings couldnt gat it sized and cut right.
     
  15. Kotori87

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    Close, guys, very very close. If nobody gets it by 9am tomorrow (pacific time) I'll give it to JKN for having the closest picture so far. Remember, this was a particular variant used to protect the giant troopships like the Grey Ghost when making their high-speed solo runs across the Atlantic.
     
  16. JKN

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    Several large merchant ships of the British navy had a black destroyer or cruiser painted on them
     
  17. Kotori87

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    JKN gets it. A number of transports had destroyers painted along the side in what is now known as the "destroyer" camouflage. The idea was that, for fast transports like the Queen Mary, they could sail alone but still look like they had escorts, thus discouraging attack from the few enemy ships that could catch them.
     
  18. JKN

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    What vessel is this
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  19. Kotori87

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    O Great Computer Game that is Jutland, I command thee to display thine mighty fleets, so that I might identify this mysterious ship!

    aha! It is the **** class. Am I right?
     
  20. NickMyers

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    either v106 or v108?