Trivia!

Discussion in 'Full Scale' started by Gascan, Nov 10, 2008.

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  1. HMCS

    HMCS Active Member

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    a dollar bill?
     
  2. BoomerBoy17

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    a small piece of common sense? no, no way. uh....some ignorance, no wait, there's too much of that already. It must be.....oh well, i have no good idea, but its fun to rank on Subs
     
  3. Tugboat

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    Verbal jousting is the only way a target can hope to get at a sub :) So, on with it ;)
     
  4. Gascan

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    Not to disagree with you Tugolas, but you're wrong. I saw a submarine get nailed by a Mogami's torpedoes. The I-401 valiantly sacrificed itself unintentionally to save Kotori's Spahkreuzer from the marauding cruiser.
     
  5. Tugboat

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    Ah, my friend... we are in the 'Historical and Full Scale' section. Surface ships these days don't have a prayer. For anyone who would disagree, I say 'Belgrano!' ;) Even with modern ASW, you will lose several surface ships to a sub before you kill it, if you kill it. Naval air (helos and P-3 type aircraft) make a significant difference, but are not really used to full effect.
     
  6. NickMyers

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    Why break with tradition? I'm going to guess its the traditional coin still.
     
  7. Tugboat

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    Man, you guys are conventional! If I don't get a correct guess by morning, I will post the answer and an easier question.
     
  8. Kotori87

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    It's a 2-gigabyte flash memory card! Or maybe a bottle cap? a piece of cheese from the moon? a hello kitty keychain! That's gotta be it! one half of a pair of pants? that squirrel's favorite nut. a model of the submarine? how about a trident? or maybe... I've got it! AIR! There's always air down there! That, and steel. maybe it's steel? possibly some sort of metal...
     
  9. BoomerBoy17

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    Kotori, im going to agree with you on the hello kitty key chain, that really fits.
    But really, Tug, dont forget alot of surface vessels have sonar, not to mention a couple carrier-bourne aircraft with MAD booms. My old shop teacher served on a P-3 Orion in his hey day, and he told me a story of how one day, flying out of Greenland, that he dropped a sonobuoy right on to a Russian Sub, and that was on a day the MAD boom wasnt working.
     
  10. Tugboat

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    Boomer, I spent several years playing games with surface ships ;) I know all about their sonar; part of the problem is that their bow array isn't very good for passive use. The towed array is good for passive, but not as good as a submarine's is, and and it's also more of a pain to deploy, which means it doesn't get used as much. The towed array is also not something you want to get chopped up in another ships props, so it doesn't get deployed when in formation (like a carrier battle group (CVBG) going somewhere). The DDGs covering a CVBG tend to run active to make up for this (when they think there's a sub nearby), with the result that the water is so full of sound that they can't tell that a sub is sailing right under them. I have some great photos of a CVBG that we did this to ;) For lil DD's flying solo and running all their gear, we hear them miles off. That's not to say that the Russian subs are as capable of farting around our DDs as we are; they're much noisier (excepting the Akulas) and not nearly as well trained (conscripts!) The Chinese have already demonstrated that their subs can on a good day get close to a CVBG. I tip my hat to them as submariners, even as I lament our surface forces' lack of ASW skill.

    As for the P3... I said above that fixed-wing maritime patrol aircraft can change the game considerably. They have millimetric-wave radar that can spot periscopes (pretty tricky to look down at a surface with choppy waves and do that, but we do have a technology edge), bigger payloads (both torpedo and depth charges, among other things), and high speed. DDs get the finger, MPAs get respect :) Oh, and MPAs can fart around all day hunting you, comfortable in the knowledge that you can't do sh** to them :)
     
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    Okay, it's 8AM and no correct answers. Not so strong without Wikipedia are ya!? j/k.

    When you have removed the main storage battery for replacement, and have cleaned the battery well, you are ready for the first new cell to come in (weighing about 2400 pounds, no small matter). All the electricians on board, and their officer (the Electrical Assistant) sign the current month's Playboy centerfold, which is folded and put in a sealed plastic bag, and placed under the #1 battery cell.
     
  12. BoomerBoy17

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    Thats interesting, im sure you enjoy that tradition. Thanks for the Navy lesson Tuggy.
     
  13. Knight4hire

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    Tugboat: Are they still allowed to do that with the military being so coed and politically correct these days?
    Back in '84 I tried to paint an almost topless gal on the side of my aircraft, (They were bring back 'nose art' at the time) and I caught a lot of flack over it! (It was a girl in scant armor riding a dragon)
     
  14. djranier

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    What was the name of the first US ship that the Japanese sank to start WW2, and what sank it?
     
  15. MotoPhoto

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    I couldn't answer that one without Google's help. Interesting!

    (I'll refrain from answering in hopes someone already knows it).
     
  16. Knight4hire

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    I know that one of the first casulities of Pearl was the Utah. That was a shame because she had more anti aircraft defences than any other ship! It would have been interesting to see just how many aircraft she could have downed if she could have stayed afloat and have all of her anti aircraft batteries manned!
     
  17. djranier

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    Anymore guesses, I will post the answer tomorrow.
     
  18. BoomerBoy17

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    i thought it was a merchant ship sunk by a sub, but i dont remember specifics, or i might be totally wrong.
     
  19. djranier

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    Boomer is right, its claimed that it happened about 50 minutes before the attack on Pearl started. The I26 shelled and sank SS Cynthia Olson about 1200 miles west of California. The crew was reported to have manned their 2 lifeboats, and the I19 the very next day, reported giving them additional food and water. But they were never found. Of course the captain of the I19 never gave quarter to any crews that he sank, and machined gunned survivors, so the story that he gave supplies to the survivors was not beleived at the end of the war.
     
  20. BoomerBoy17

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    I was right? Sweet! I dont have any good questions though, if anyone wants to fill in, be my guest.
     
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